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Work on removing the anger. Disarm a loony of his automatic weapons and he’ll come back with a car bomb.
I’m not so sure that they do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXGgI2E5JUw
Huh. Well, just so we’re all on the same page:
That’s all HD and his ilk hear is “let’s take away everyone’s guns”
Make bullets expensive and illegal to make at home. It’s not unconstitutional because you still have your guns and access to (really expensive) bullets.
What other constitutional right is taxed like this? That’s gonna be the argument.
And tax the bejeezus out of guns so society can cover the costs. Like, a pistol should cost $500,000 or so.
Make books expensive and illegal to make at home. It’s not unconstitutional because you still have your books.
Okay, and I’m not saying you are wrong. Ethnicity was just an example off the top of my head.
I agree. No need to get snippy.
And tax the bejeezus out of blogs, newspapers,youtubes, podcasts etc so society can cover the costs. Like, a blog or youtube should cost $500,000 or so to put out.
Not at all. As I mentioned in my post, I hear “variations on the theme” quite often. Sometimes it’s “let’s take away everyone’s scary guns” or “let’s take away everyone’s black guns” (or big guns or little guns or plastic guns). Other times it’s “let’s take away all the guns from poor people” (or men or white people or Republicans). In their more lucid periods, it’s sometimes “let’s just take away some of the guns from some people”. If liberals want a serious conversation about gun control, they might try proposing things other than various forms of “take away guns”.
Does it or does it not make sense to you that even if one state has effective gun control that reduces deaths, it makes sense to have the same laws in neighboring states. IOW, that there is nothing magical about state lines, that gun control that works in one place will work another. That all one has to do if he lives in the most “gun controlled” state in the US but lives next to the least, is go across state lines for guns, thus rendering the laws in the first state less effective?
I’d like to make all guns illegal that allow, among other things, one to kill or maim 30 or more people in 30 seconds, yes. Absolutely. And not because they look scary. Because, see bold portion.
That may be so, but this is a thread about guns. I don’t think distractions and changing the subject is helpful. I simply ask because you are okay, then, with that 2% resulting in the number of deaths involved, correct?
I have a feeling pro-gunners are willing to negotiate only if they can be assured of the right to own several (or unlimited number) of firearms and ammunition, and the right to own military-type weapons, to some degree. Allowing them the ownership of an unlimited number of firearms, or semi-auto weapons with high magazine capacity should be gradational; to be enforced by municipal LE. Qualifications would include a confirmed competition shooter, a long-time recreational shooter cum hunter with a clean record, a certified gunsmith, a certified firearms dealer, a retired serviceman or policeman also with a clean record.
Here in my host country, the latest amendment to firearms ownership has cut the maximum number of weapons to 15 (licenses grade by number of allowable weapons, starting from one.) But sadly, qualifications for personal carry still follow the old argument of individuals who need protection; anything from certified public accountants, to businessmen, mediamen, etc. I find this crap.
Dude, do you know what the word “need” means? It’s a pretty basic word, and kambuckta even highlighted it for you.
Need - Verb 1. require (something) because it is essential or very important.
Every single thing you mentioned in your response is a fucking hobby. Nobody “needs” their hobby. Every single thing you listed can also be done with a gun that isn’t in Category D, so nobody “needs” a Category D firearm, even to do those hobbies.
The only task a Category D gun can accomplish that the other categories can’t is to pump a couple dozen bullets into a crowd without having to reload.
When I say that guns should be illegal, I mean that guns should be illegal for everyone, regardless of political ideology or mental state. I’m an equal opportunity anti-gun advocate.
It’s unlikely to come to pass that Americans will give up their guns any time soon. But not because it can’t be accomplished from a practical standpoint. It’s because a very large proportion of Americans are cowardly, morally inferior and fundamentally ignorant.
BTW, can we agree that local gun control is simply worthless nonsense? Our country has literally more guns than people, there are vast areas of the country with little gun control, and there are no areas of the country that perform searches when entering or leaving the area. It is trivially easy for a criminal to get a gun, even in a municipality with strict gun control laws. Local gun control does absolutely nothing to control guns. At most, it increases the penalty for a criminal who is found with a gun, but it’s not like criminals really weigh how to commit their crimes against the penal code.
Want to stop mass shootings in the USA?
Nuke the USA from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Other than the gotta do somethingism and the politicization of any tragedy (which is always wrong), gun control can be had when the people who want it come up with a way to legislate control away from those who shouldn’t have them without affecting those who are the responsible law abiding folks. Or get enough control of legislation to change the Constitution.
That really is the answer, the only answer. To date, there have been zero laws, ideas, and/or appeals that do this.
You’re not entitled to afford a gun; you’re just entitled to possess one if you can afford it, no different from any other piece of property. Of course that doesn’t mean that today’s Supreme Court couldn’t pull a rationale out of its ass to rule such a tax unconstitutional - there’s that.
Historically, gun control becomes more popular when more people of color possess guns. Maybe that’s what it will take: people of color so scared of, so fed up with, taking shit from white male racists that they make it clear they are not to be fucked with anymore. That will scare the shit out of whites, and even moderates will probably want some form of gun control then.