# So, what's Dallas like? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 3, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306 "2003-06-03T04:10:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ill\_Logik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Ill\_Logik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ill_Logik)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/21 "2003-06-05T14:31:33Z")
I might have missed it, but why are you choosing Dallas? I think Austin would be a way better place for you. I lived in North Dallas for about 9 months and it sucked. Everyone was way too superficial and finding a place to buy beer was slightly easier than finding a decent place to eat. Greenville and Deep Ellum were pretty cool, if I was up for the 30 minute drive each way. I would definitely choose Austin if I had a choice. Hell start another thread titled “So what’s Austin like?” ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/22 "2003-06-05T14:50:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*They say (girls PLEASE don’t kill me, I’m only repeating what I’ve heard, please correct me [KINDLY], if the following isn’t true), anyway, the men I’ve talked to say that the Texas women tend to be very high maintenance and want to be spoiled. > > \*\* Yes? And your point is?😃 That’s the HOUSTON women. Us Dallas women are really low-maintenance. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/23 "2003-06-05T16:21:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SCSimmons \* > Especially in the north suburbs, you’ll see a large number of people wearing designer clothes & flashy jewelry, driving hot sports cars, and generally looking like moderately wealthy people. They’re actually in debt up to their eyeballs maintaining the superficial trimmings of that lifestyle. Why, I don’t know … > \*\* Here in New York we just call them “people”. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/24 "2003-06-06T01:25:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reckless Humor \* > \*\*Well, I grew up in Dallas, and moved to Austin to go to UT. Personally, I will never go back. > > Most of my old friends still live in Dallas, so I still visit occasionally, and it seems to me that the attitude of people in Dallas is getting progressively worse, and less like “Texas” every year. I totally agree about the $30,000 millionaire, and would add that the service industry (waiters, salespeople, etc) seem to be ruder in Dallas than they are in the rest of Texas. > > San Antonio is pretty good. It has a much more “South Texas” feel to it, with more native Spanish speakers and great Tex-Mex restaurants. Oh, yeah … and it’s only about an hour’s drive from Austin - the greates city on Earth. > > If you’re into hiking, Austin and central Texas have got you covered. There’s only one drawback … it’s freakin’ HOT here!! \*\* Why are we choosing Dallas? I’m not sure. LOL. It’s sort of a “jumping off place”. I did basics in San Antonio and loved it. My mom and sis have visited and one of my aunts lives in San Antonio, in fact my mom lived there for a little while after she retired (from Anchorage water utility), but the scorpions scared her and she moved to CA. We don’t have anything like scorpions, and we don’t have snakes. But, everyplace has its drawbacks right? My sister flew down at the end of May to drive my mom and the horses from CA to Dallas. So mom will be getting things ready, looking for apts, or houses and such while sis and I wrap things up here (we both own homes and have the usual financial stuff to finish). Thanks for not flaying me alive for the “high maintenance” thing. And FTR? I think high maintenance spoiled princesses are AWESOME. Makes we “real” girls look SO much better to the guys! Maybe I should have titled my thread “So What’s Texas Like”??? ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/25 "2003-06-06T03:14:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\* > Maybe I should have titled my thread “So What’s Texas Like”??? \*\* No, no…there are radical differences between Texas cities. Dallas is urban, Fort Worth is hicks-ville, Houston is just like Dallas except a tad bit more shallow, and the traffic sucks to a greater degree, if that’s possible. Then you have Texarkana, a scruffy little mafia town – and Amarillo, god-forsaken cattle-killing city. I could go on to mention San Antonio (The Mavericks are going to to KICK your ass next year, dammit. And the Alamo should be in the dictionary next to the word “unimpressive”). I’m just kidding, love all the Texas towns I’ve been dragged through! The best months to visit are November, and…November. ---
**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/26 "2003-06-06T03:15:06Z")
One of my favorite places in Dallas: Connmara - great outdoor art/sculpture exhibit [http://www.guidelive.com/profile/103210/?p=1](http://www.guidelive.com/profile/103210/?p=1) ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/27 "2003-06-06T04:13:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Glory \* > \*\*One of my favorite places in Dallas: > > Connmara - great outdoor art/sculpture exhibit > > [http://www.guidelive.com/profile/103210/?p=1](http://www.guidelive.com/profile/103210/?p=1) \*\* Thanks! That’s right in my neck of the woods (can I stop talking Texan now, please)? It RAINED today!! Whooo-hooo!! Message to the God Overseeing The Last Day of Bearable Weather in Dallas, TX: Love ya, see you again in November. Please, no crickets this year - the smell is horrible. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/28 "2003-06-06T04:39:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Blonde \* > **Houston is just like Dallas except a tad bit more shallow, and the traffic sucks to a greater degree, if that’s possible.** You think so? I grew up in Houston, and have found it to be MUCH more blue-collar in attitude than Dallas. Traffic seems about the same- I thought it was worse in Dallas when I moved up here, but it seems about the same now. ---
**Author:** ![greenteeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@greenteeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greenteeth)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/29 "2003-06-06T05:37:18Z")
Dallas is OK I guess. A little too pretentious. A little too generic looking in places. The music scene is good. Between Deep Ellum and Denton there is no lack of talent(?). The houses are a little more expensive than in other Texas cities. The climate is excellent in my opinion. Hot, but not as humid as coastal cities. I like it, but I’m bored of being here. Most everyone everyone in Texas wants to live near Austin instead. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/30 "2003-06-06T06:46:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Blonde \* > **Fort Worth is hicks-ville** Ok, I’ve got to speak up in defense of Fort Worth. While it does have more than its share of rednecks and cowboys (both the real kind and the wannabes), Fort Worth is a great town! Not as big as Dallas (a good thing, IMO), Fort Worth is a very nice, easy-going place. Sundance Square downtown is a fun venue for outdoor concerts. The stockyards are also fun occasionally for that “old west” or even an “urban cowboy” experience. The Bass Hall is a premier performance hall in Texas. And the world-class museum triumvirate of the Kimball, the Amon Carter, and the Modern makes the Fort Worth Cultural District at least as important as that in any other Texas city. The best thing I’ve heard about Dallas here is that THERE’S NOW A FREEBIRDS!?! Whooop! Tell me exactly where it is! Please! ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/31 "2003-06-06T06:53:18Z")
Okay!! Cool, so where’s the best dancing? And what are “the Mavericks”? ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/32 "2003-06-06T09:49:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tangent \* > \*\*Ok, I’ve got to speak up in defense of Fort Worth. While it does have more than its share of rednecks and cowboys (both the real kind and the wannabes), Fort Worth is a great town! Not as big as Dallas (a good thing, IMO), Fort Worth is a very nice, easy-going place. Sundance Square downtown is a fun venue for outdoor concerts. The stockyards are also fun occasionally for that “old west” or even an “urban cowboy” experience. The Bass Hall is a premier performance hall in Texas. And the world-class museum triumvirate of the Kimball, the Amon Carter, and the Modern makes the Fort Worth Cultural District at least as important as that in any other Texas city. > \*\* I second this. I hate with a passion how Dallas-ites (speaking generally) always paint Fort Worth as “hicks-ville”. Can I have a :rolleyes: please? ---
**Author:** ![Carnal\_knowledge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@Carnal\_knowledge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnal_knowledge)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/33 "2003-06-06T13:20:28Z")
> [@](#): > > The best thing I’ve heard about Dallas here is that THERE’S NOW A FREEBIRDS!?! Whooop! Tell me exactly where it is! Please! Greenville and Lovers, just a bit north. I had dinner there yesterday. I wasn’t amazingly impressed, but had to try it given the kudos I’d heard. YMMV > [@](#): > > And what are “the Mavericks”? The Mavs are the local NBA basketball team. They got beat by the San Antonio Spurs in the conference finals last week. > [@](#): > > I second this. I hate with a passion how Dallas-ites (speaking generally) always paint Fort Worth as “hicks-ville”. I’ll third this. I like Fort Worth, but then I’m closer to being a hick than most in Dallas. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/34 "2003-06-06T13:20:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\* > And what are “the Mavericks”? \*\* That would the Dallas Mavericks - basketball!! OK, OK, I SAID I was kidding about bashing other Texas cities. Fort Worth is a fine town - I just hate country music and happen to be a vegetarian, so I don’t have a lot in common with the average Fort Worth person. That, and I had to take the CPA exam there. It is a prettier town than Dallas (which isn’t saying too much) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/35 "2003-06-07T19:05:33Z")
Any city that has a highrise hotel topped by a giant slowly-spinning neon pegasus can’t be all bad. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/36 "2003-06-07T19:43:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gunslinger \* > \*\*Any city that has a highrise hotel topped by a giant slowly-spinning neon pegasus can’t be all bad. 😃 \*\* OK, your user name ROCKS! The Reunion Arena ball is cool, isn’t it? Although, I must admit I’ve been avoiding it since 9/11. Easy target. Despite the fact that us Dallasites wanted the Mavs in the finals, let’s root for our Texan Spurs. One other piece of advice for those visiting or moving to Dallas: Stay away from the High Five. ---
**Author:** ![G-RAY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@G-RAY](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-RAY)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/37 "2003-06-07T20:39:18Z")
I have an outsider’s view. I have visited Dallas a few times becuase of mywork. It is hot and dry and flat. I got a kick out of the man made lakes. The people were very friendly for a big city and the food was great. I caused quite a stir when I asked a waitress what fried okra was like; “YOU’VE NEVER HAD FRIED OKRA??” It was like those old Pace picante sauce commercials every one stopped and stared at me. There was no way in hell I was getting out of there with out a plate of fried okra she brought out a plate and I think the whole staff stood around and watched me eat it. It was hillarious. On the down side it is sprawl hell, suburb after suburb for miles, VERY conservative politically, and BIGTIME christian. It got to be a bit much for and agnostic Oregon hippy to take. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/38 "2003-06-07T20:41:19Z")
Since it’s about Dallas I thought I’d make my request once more: If any of you Dallas people ever frequent the West End area, pick up a t-shirt for me (for which you’ll be duely compensated) at the Cadillac Bar. I’ve been trying to get one for four years now. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/39 "2003-06-07T20:58:49Z")
I don’t go to the West End very much. Have you tried calling them? 214.999.0662 If that doesn’t work out for you, I can pick you one up the next time I take my car in to the dealers. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306/40 "2003-06-07T23:13:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by G-RAY \* > \*\* “YOU’VE NEVER HAD FRIED OKRA??” \*\* Home-grown fried okra and tomatoes!! Used to eat that for lunch every day as a child - mom grew a little garden out back. Heaven. Oh, and on that subject…yes, Dallas is pretty conservative/religious. Until maybe 10 years ago (my memory could be way off on that) the malls weren’t open on Sundays. Visitors are often dumbfounded that you can’t buy hard liquor on Sundays, even now. Guess it is what it is. I also don’t frequent the West End often – it’s a major tourist trap. If I had my druthers, I’d live in Austin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-dallas-like/179306.md?page=3)