# So what's up with these 'Proud Boys', anyway? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 30, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896 "2020-09-30T15:58:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/141 "2020-11-16T01:08:22Z")
We’ll see. I may be wrong but I think everyone has underestimated the extent to which he is internalizing this. Religious “prophets” do the same thing, even as they are fleecing their flock. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Of course, there are other religious leaders that are totally aware that they are running a con. We’ll see in two weeks, I guess. I’m always skimming through the hard right media sites, especially when something crazy is going on. Frankly, it’s pretty scary - if these are the only places you get your news you would be absolutely convinced that Trump was right. God knows what’s going on over in Parler and WeMe and all these new alt-right universe apps. I just hope the FBI is monitoring that stuff,… When I first saw the name WeMe I parsed it as WeWe, which seemed oddly appropriate considering the disturbing nexus between Trump and pee. First some Russian hookers might have wet his bed just so he could show Obama who was boss. Then someone peed on someone onstage in a nightclub somewhere for Trump. Then there was the whole Pee Vitamin thing. It is a sad commentary on the state of our educational system that every American does not know about Trump pee vitamins. It used to be that you could send Trump a bottle of piss and $140.00 bucks and he’d send you a bottle of vitamins. For $100 more, you could send him another bottle of piss six months later just to be sure he was sending you the right color vitamin. This was, of course, technically legal, largely due to Republicans deciding that it was a free market violation to impose any regulations whatsoever on vitamins. > **[The Trouble With The Trump Vitamins](https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-bogus-were-trump-vitamins#The-Vitamins)** > > Nutritionists express serious reservations about vitamins and urine test sold by The Trump Network to a company that still sells the items on its website. Sorry for the hijack, I have to keep laughing. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/142 "2020-11-16T02:47:46Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > largely due to Republicans deciding that it was a free market violation to impose any regulations whatsoever on vitamins. Thank you, Senator Hatch. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/143 "2020-11-16T16:10:52Z")
You don’t need to thank him. He made plenty off the ‘supplement’ industry ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/144 "2020-11-16T17:07:03Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > We’ll see. I may be wrong but I think everyone has underestimated the extent to which he is internalizing this. I still disagree but for a reason that is no better - he thinks there is cheating going on but is upset that his own people couldn’t cheat better than his opponents rather than upset that cheating is going on at all. It’s like his golf. His rationalization for the ludicrous amount of cheating he does is that other people do it and so should he. Unfortunately, he thinks he’s actually good at cheating, when he’s not. Like many aspects of his life, people let him get away with it because that’s often easier than calling him on it. So he’s been conditioned his entire life to thinking cheating is common, that it’s the only way to win, and also to believe he is skilled at it. But Presidential elections are a different kettle of fish altogether. People are significantly less willing (though still somewhat willing) to indulge his whims when the stakes aren’t a few bucks on a golf score but the fundamental underpinnings of our democratic system. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/145 "2020-11-16T23:51:55Z")
Oh, I know. That was sarcasm. (If you recognized that and I didn’t recognize yours, my apologies…) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/146 "2020-12-04T19:17:25Z")
A group of Proud Boys showed up in Staten Island in support of a bar owner who was arrested and his bar shut down for failure to comply with lockdown regulations. Apparently Blue Lives only Matter when people of color are protesting. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/147 "2020-12-04T22:37:27Z")
Cyndi Lauper had a song about that. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/148 "2020-12-07T16:40:44Z")
Blue lives also don’t matter when you are driving your car through them: > **[Bar owner drove into officer while fleeing arrest for flouting shutdown...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/06/bar-owner-drove-into-officer-while-fleeing-arrest-flouting-shutdown-orders-sheriff-says/)** > > Danny Presti drove his turquoise Jeep about 100 yards with a sergeant on the hood, leaving the officer with fractured shinbones, authorities allege. Presti's bar has brazenly flouted coronavirus restrictions. The bar owner in question drove through the police when they showed up to arrest him on charges of being a douchebag in the first degree. I’m sure the Proud Boys are extra proud right now. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/149 "2020-12-07T20:00:58Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > The bar owner in question drove through the police when they showed up to arrest him on charges of being a douchebag in the first degree. > > I’m sure the Proud Boys are extra proud right now. Well, hell, now they’re gonna have to find somewhere else to hold the putsch. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/150 "2020-12-12T23:21:46Z")
At today’s march, the Proud Boys were wearing color coordinated yellow and black kilts. The manufacturer said that they asked him for a group discount because they were in a band. The manufacturer has said that he’s donating the money to the NAACP. > **[NeoNazis in DC photographed in $750 worth of kilts, so kilt maker Verillas...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/12/12/2001622/-NeoNazis-in-DC-photographed-in-750-worth-of-kilts-so-kilt-maker-Verillas-gives-1000-to-NAACP)** > > After a photo circulated on Twitter and elsewhere of NeoNazi Proud Boys wearing distinctive yellow and black kilts with a $750 value:  the kilt maker responded by denouncing them and donating $1000 to the NAACP: Verillas sounds like a... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/151 "2020-12-12T23:33:41Z")
Well the Proud Boys are giving money to the NAACP, maybe they’re doing some good after all. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/152 "2020-12-12T23:53:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > At today’s march, the Proud Boys were wearing color coordinated yellow and black kilts. Wait a minute, I thought conservatives were all opposed and outraged about [skirts on men](https://www.insider.com/harry-styles-candace-owens-vogue-cover-celebrities-fans-react-2020-11)? Especially [yellow ones](https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gq-emasculates-itself-masculinity/)? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/153 "2020-12-12T23:54:32Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > At today’s march, the Proud Boys were wearing color coordinated yellow and black kilts. Ah, the traditional tartan of Clan MacDouche. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/154 "2020-12-13T01:03:37Z")
Trumpites are spontaneously turning into Scotsmen?! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/155 "2020-12-13T01:18:45Z")
Well, not actual Scotsmen… ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/156 "2020-12-13T01:37:18Z")
Certainly not _true_ Scotsmen. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/157 "2020-12-13T02:55:58Z")
Over the aligator, emroider, “Not a Proud Boy”. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/158 "2020-12-13T19:59:31Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Trumpites are spontaneously turning into Scotsmen?! Trump’s huge appetite will come in handy for once, except that there is no way he would be able to spell blancmange. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/159 "2020-12-13T20:09:38Z")
Can’t see him surviving a game of tennis, either. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896/160 "2020-12-13T20:17:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Wait a minute, I thought conservatives were all opposed and outraged about [skirts on men](https://www.insider.com/harry-styles-candace-owens-vogue-cover-celebrities-fans-react-2020-11)? Especially [yellow ones](https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gq-emasculates-itself-masculinity/)? It’s mainly just tan suits on powerful black men that get their goat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whats-up-with-these-proud-boys-anyway/921896.md?page=9)