# So when Democrats control everything in 2020.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 14, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-democrats-control-everything-in-2020/786577 "2017-05-14T05:59:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-democrats-control-everything-in-2020/786577/101 "2017-05-17T16:26:22Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think we just need to educate people that voter ID is a solution in search of a problem, there is no significant amount of voter fraud but voter ID causes significant amounts of voter disenfranchisement. It’s not like we haven’t been trying. > [@](#): > > As America gets less white every election, voter ID becomes a losing issue for the Republicans. And that is why we haven’t been more successful. We’ve been explaining facts and morality to people who are looking for an excuse to dismiss those things. Keeping brown people from voting is the purpose of these laws and it’s what they want. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-democrats-control-everything-in-2020/786577/102 "2017-05-18T01:32:05Z")
It occurs to me that before worrying about 2020, the Democrats need to worry about what they will do after the 2018 midterms. In particular, at the rate we’re going, it’s probable that after the midterms there will be a Democratic House, a Republican Senate, and a severely weakened Trump still in the White House. At that point how they handle the impeachment question will probably be one of the main issues between the midterms and the 2020 election. Hopefully they will be able to find a way to handle the issue without losing the base or turning off moderates. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-democrats-control-everything-in-2020/786577/103 "2017-05-21T12:54:24Z")
Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem. There are better ways to prevent voter fraud, such as actually verifying registrations before issuing cards. I’d note however, that voter ID is pretty popular among minority voters as well, which is one reason our side flogs it so much and Democrats don’t dare to oppose it except in court. > **[Four in Five Americans Support Voter ID Laws, Early Voting](https://news.gallup.com/poll/194741/four-five-americans-support-voter-laws-early-voting.aspx)** > > As partisan-fueled court battles over state voting laws shape the 2016 political landscape and beyond, four in five Americans support both early voting and voter ID laws. A smaller majority of 63% support automatic voter registration. > [@](#): > > Though many of the arguments for early voting and against voter ID laws frequently cite minorities’ voting access, nonwhites’ views of the two policies don’t differ markedly from those of whites. Seventy-seven percent of nonwhites favor both policies, while whites favor each at 81%. So Democrats take the wuss way, passing laws that require voter ID and then resisting enforcement at all costs. But that way Democratic Congressmen and state legislators are never on record as being against voter ID. Slick. Now of course recently Republicans have tried to pass voter ID laws that are obviously politically motivated and often racially motivated, which gives Democrats some cover. Just not enough cover to actually repeal existing voter ID laws, which most states have. Democrats expending political capital on a national effort to end voter ID would be disastrous for them. I can’t think of a fight I’d rather have as a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-democrats-control-everything-in-2020/786577/104 "2017-05-21T20:24:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And time seems to be moving towards the Democrats. Here’s a [map](https://thumbs.mic.com/ZGQ5MTY3YjY2OCMvdlR6NkpGTng3WUs5SUd5QWVwZTdfeGZKejlvPS8yNXgxODoxMTc1eDg0Mi82MjF4NDQ1L2ZpbHRlcnM6cXVhbGl0eSg3MCkvaHR0cDovL3MzLmFtYXpvbmF3cy5jb20vcG9saWN5bWljLWltYWdlcy9wZzBjeGZiNWdjYWtoeHVycmMyNWpndWJpdnpmbW1hdGc5cjU3amY1OGgyZzBiYmNva3pzbG9tdm94cWYxYmptLmpwZw.jpg) of what the results of the 2016 election would have been if only votes cast by people under 40 were counted. Clinton would have won with 364 electoral votes. Here’s a [map](https://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/img/TTi37uO9bt0MqEMuTyLoO4mfEPs=/770x433/2016/11/09/4c30dc00-a79b-4bbe-a0b7-32bb406e109a/bluemapcropped.jpg) showing results if only voters under 25 had been counted. Clinton would have won with 504 electoral votes. Obviously, not every young voter in 2016 will remain a lifelong Democrat but it does appear that the Democrats have a younger voter base than the Republicans. So… they should stop trying to make sure everyone has health care, and just let the old folks die as soon as possible? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-democrats-control-everything-in-2020/786577.md?page=5)