# So when is Palin giving back all the clothes?

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**Created:** [November 6, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457 "2008-11-06T15:45:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/281 "2008-11-11T03:31:27Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> And who the hell would _want_ second-hand children’s underwear anyway?

Who the hell would want Palin’s sweaty, coliform infested, VPL-inhibiting thongs? Certainly not anyone I want to know.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/282 "2008-11-11T04:38:29Z")

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From **Squink** ’s [link](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_el_pr/palin_7): (… **Squink** ’s link. **Squink** ’s link. See **Squink** link. Linkety- **Squink**! 🙂 Er, sorry.)

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> Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin spent part of the weekend going through her clothing to determine what belongs to the Republican Party after it spent $150,000-plus on a wardrobe for the vice presidential nominee, according to Palin’s father. […]
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> Republican National Committee lawyers are still trying to determine exactly what clothing was bought for Palin, what was returned and what has become of the rest.
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> RNC lawyers have been discussing with Palin whether what’s left of the clothing and accessories purchased for her on the campaign trail will go to charity, back to stores or be paid for by Palin, a McCain-Palin campaign official said Friday, speaking on condition of anonymity because the campaign hadn’t authorized comment. […]
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> On Friday, Palin told reporters: “Those are the RNC’s clothes. They’re not my clothes. I never forced anybody to buy anything.”

I don’t get it. Why didn’t she just get some staffers to help her sort through the clothes before she packed to go home? Wasn’t it kind of silly to cart all the clothes back to Alaska, where she now has to sort through them all herself and ship them all the way back to New York or wherever the RNC wants them?

And how is any of the RNC’s stuff mixed up with the family’s regular clothes, anyway? I thought the whole point of having her clothing purchases subsidized was that she needed fancy and expensive stuff for national public appearances that she didn’t have in her own professional wardrobe. Shouldn’t those fancy and expensive things have been easily identified as such, and easy to keep separate from the family’s own clothes?

Shoot, when I was a little girl and borrowed a fancy party dress from my cousin to be in a wedding in, my mom made me keep it in a box in tissue paper at all times when it was not actually on my body for alterations or at the wedding itself. (And no trying it on at random times to play princess in, either!) A fancy, expensive, **borrowed** outfit is not something to be treated casually, IMMO (In My Mother’s Opinion).

The RNC is having to pay lawyers’ salaries to get this mess sorted out just so they won’t be breaking campaign finance laws. ISTM that somebody somewhere was clearly being way too casual, and/or disorganized, and/or negligent, about this. Either Palin should have been more careful and systematic with the borrowed clothes, or the RNC should have kept better records about them.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/283 "2008-11-11T04:43:26Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Who the hell would want Palin’s sweaty, coliform infested, VPL-inhibiting thongs?

Just as a guess: Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Rush, John, well maybe not John, I think they had a falling out there at the end.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/284 "2008-11-11T04:50:20Z")

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I’m loving this thread. Sam Stone makes me giggle.

Bytheway, maybe this is or isn’t the thread to ask this … cuz gosh knows I wouldn’t want to imply anything inappropriate about the Palin’s family values BUT … have Bristol and Fucking Redneck set a date yet?

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/285 "2008-11-11T04:54:05Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> Just as a guess: Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Rush, John, well maybe not John, I think they had a falling out there at the end.

And all of a sudden Sarah can’t find her underpants. Coincidence? I think not.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/286 "2008-11-11T05:01:11Z")

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In early October [they said](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/levi-johnston-and-bristol_n_131565.html) they were considering summer 2009, but nothing was settled:

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> The two have been considering getting married next summer, “but that could change,” she said during a short interview outside her Wasilla home. The baby is due in late December.

Apparently the McCain campaign had been hoping for a pre-election ceremony:

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> Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby. “It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
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> There is already some urgency to the wedding as Bristol, who is six months pregnant, may not want to walk down the aisle too close to her date of delivery. […]
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> McCain is expected to have a front-row seat at Bristol’s wedding and to benefit from the outpouring of goodwill that it could bring. “What’s the downside?” a source inside the McCain campaign said. “It would be wonderful. I don’t know that there has ever been a pre-election wedding before.”

Those poor kids. You know, if they really have decided they’re in love forever and want to build a family together and all that then I wish them every happiness, but if they are not feeling really sure about it, then I hope they manage to get out of it with no bones broken. Marriage is not supposed to be a celebrity stunt, although I know it’s not exactly unheard of to use it that way.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/287 "2008-11-11T12:19:58Z")

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Maybe they’re trying to arrange a double ceremony with Charlie Crist and his Beard-To-Be?

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/288 "2008-11-11T13:11:47Z")

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> Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby. “It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”

Ok, that is just disgusting. We are talking about MARRIAGE here–the institution that conservatives deem so very sacred. And here it is merely a political ploy. If Palin is the one who reined this asshole in, good for her.

I doubt there’ll be a wedding. I pity Bristol–she’s the adult in this and will carry all the freight. I just hope that when they get back to AK, she can stop being her mother’s au pair.  
Nothing here has changed my mind about Palin–I think she was on the make and like someone said upthread, got caught with her hand in the cookie jar. There was no reason to take those clothes back to AK, but then, there was no reason to spend that much on the clothes in the first place. So much for prudent conservative spending in a fishbowl. It’s just another example of “I’ve got mine”–the meme of the Rep party.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/289 "2008-11-11T13:54:13Z")

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The imagery of Palin rooting around for the missing items is making me think about a teenage girl who’s been caught shoplifting and has to account for all the stolen merchandise in her closet. I’m picturing her sitting on her knees amist a pile of clothes, her father standing behind her with his arms folded, telling her to quit crying and just find the damn underwear already.

“I’M TRYING TO, DADDY! GAWD, GET OFF MY BACK ALREADY! I HATE YOU! I HATE EVERYTHING!!!” she screams, throwing a shoe angrily across the room.

If the plan from the get-go had been that the clothes would be given away, this would not be happening. At all.

It’s funny but it’s also kind of sad.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/290 "2008-11-11T13:58:34Z")

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Any clothes that end up at a charity consignment will just be bought back by SP at firesale prices!

I think it has been Piper, and Willow pulling au pair duty, Bristol was getting fitted for maternity clothes on the campaign aerobus and training the younger au pairs, but I think she was mostly gone fromt he spotlight. But who cares about the child care, big families all pitch in, ever heard of the Duggers and their 18 buddies?

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/291 "2008-11-11T14:13:22Z")

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What I’m kind of chuckling about is how Obama has been spending the last week setting up his administration and the “experience” team of McCain/Palin can’t manage to sort through a wardrobe and set up a charity auction. Is this how these two jokers were planning to run our country?  
I also can’t help but be reminded of the stereotypical dinner date where the woman orders the Surf & Turf just because it’s the most expensive dish on the menu, and she ain’t payin’.

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**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/292 "2008-11-11T18:01:23Z")

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[Sarah talks of the future.](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5129155.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1)

In which Mrs. Palin says she will listen to what god has to say.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/293 "2008-11-11T18:10:36Z")

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> [@vison](#):
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> [Sarah talks of the future.](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5129155.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1)
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> In which Mrs. Palin says she will listen to what god has to say.

It seems she missed the memo. God said to go back to Alaska.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/294 "2008-11-11T18:43:49Z")

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As far as I can tell, there doesn’t appear to be a Liberal dog in this fight. It’s one subset of Republicans rolling & scratching in the mud with another subset of Republicans, and scrambling to get to the Ministry of Propaganda (oops, Fox News) with the latest dirt.

It just makes me want to pop some popcorn.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/295 "2008-11-11T18:58:03Z")

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I do not care about the clothes. What bothers me is she thinks god will help her get to the white house. The self importance of such a statement is shuddering. She really thinks some second rate bimbo local politician is gods chosen leader of the free world.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/296 "2008-11-11T19:06:28Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> \What bothers me is she thinks god will help her get to the white house. The self importance of such a statement is shuddering.

Where did she say such a thing? What were her exact words?

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/297 "2008-11-11T19:27:07Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> Where did she say such a thing? What were her exact words?

In the mind of the liberal faithful all across America. 😉

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/298 "2008-11-11T19:39:07Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> Where did she say such a thing? What were her exact words?

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> On the question of whether Ms. Palin will run in 2012, she answered, “This is what I always do. I’m like, O.K., God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I’m like, don’t let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is. Even if it’s cracked up a little bit, maybe I’ll plow right on through that and maybe prematurely plow through it, but don’t let me miss an open door. And if there is an open door in ‘12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I’ll plow through that door.”

[Link](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/palin-defends-herself-in-fox-interview/) to the New York Times page.

The [Fox News report](http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/10/sarah-palin-defends-criticism-post-election-interview/) on the interview is essentially the same, but includes a bit about criticism I thought was nice, coming from the woman who called bloggers a bunch of losers in their parents’ basements and said the national press corps were a bunch of jerks and meanies.

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> Amid speculation nationwide about Palin’s political future, the governor told FOX News that she’s unsure of what 2012 will bring, but added that she doesn’t intend on running away from future criticism.
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> “Your life is an open book and you open yourself up to criticism and you’d better be ready to take that criticism,” Palin said. “In other words, don’t run for office if you can’t handle it.”  
> Palin, who could seek re-election in 2010 or potentially run for president in four years, said she will rely on faith.
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> “Putting my life in my creator’s hands – this is what I always do,” she said. “I’m like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I’m like, don’t let me miss the open door … And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I’ll plow through that door.”

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/299 "2008-11-11T19:42:51Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> Where did she say such a thing? What were her exact words?

> **[Sarah Palin Fox News Interview: 'God Will Show The Way To The White House'...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sarah-palin-fox-news-inte_n_142856)**
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> Sarah Palin Fox News Interview: 'God Will Show The Way To The White House' (VIDEO)

She is being called to the white house just like Bush.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/300 "2008-11-11T19:45:28Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> I do not care about the clothes. What bothers me is she thinks god will help her get to the white house. The self importance of such a statement is shuddering. She really thinks some second rate bimbo local politician is gods chosen leader of the free world.

Actually it was , “If it’s God’s plan then the door will open” or something like that. from the Fox interview on Huffpost.  
😕 I can’t get this new link thingy right :mad:

Still, I don’t see her as fit to lead this country and I hope as the GOP sorts itself out it’s leaders figure that out as well. Find a true leader with a keen mind who actually wants to serve.[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/sarah-palin-fox-news-inte\_n\_142856.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/sarah-palin-fox-news-inte_n_142856.html)

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