# So when is Palin giving back all the clothes?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457 "2008-11-06T15:45:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/441 "2008-11-14T19:57:15Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Try re-reading, **Sam** , but this time do it with your eyes open, not shut.

One time in grade school a Liberal (he was wearing Birkenstocks! He had to be one!) took **Sam’s** lunch money. Everything ever done by a non-liberal can totally be justified by that one action.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/442 "2008-11-14T20:04:12Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> One time in grade school a Liberal (he was wearing Birkenstocks! He had to be one!) took **Sam’s** lunch money. Everything ever done by a non-liberal can totally be justified by that one action.
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> -Joe

Enough with the juveline personal attacks already. That type of shit already got this thread locked once already. Please knock it off. :mad:

Back on topic: Has there been any confirmation, anything at all, from the RNC that all the clothes have been returned/accounted for?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/443 "2008-11-14T20:07:06Z")

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> [@Dripping](#):
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> Enough with the juveline personal attacks already. That type of shit already got this thread locked once already. Please knock it off. :mad:

Aww…that’s so sad. Fuck Sam.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/444 "2008-11-14T20:17:42Z")

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> [@Dripping](#):
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> Enough with the juveline personal attacks already. That type of shit already got this thread locked once already. Please knock it off. :mad:

that was when it was in “Great Debates”. Rulz is dif’rent in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/445 "2008-11-14T20:39:19Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> that was when it was in “Great Debates”. Rulz is dif’rent in the Pit.

It doesn’t make it any less stupid. Grow the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/446 "2008-11-14T20:48:58Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> Who are the 9 people? She said the clothes were for “her and 8 members of her family”. I only count a total of 8, her, the husband, five kids and the redneck babydaddy. Who’s the other person?

The unborn child of course. If a fetus is a person, the fetus needs clothes also.

Probably $10K of them.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/447 "2008-11-14T20:50:35Z")

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> [@Dripping](#):
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> It doesn’t make it any less stupid. Grow the fuck up.

Hey asshole:

A. I wasn’t calling anyone any names, haven’t even participated in this thread til now.

B. Your post didn’t argue that the namecalling was stupid or juvenile, but suggested that it would get the thread locked (which it did in GD, but wouldn’t here.

C. I noticed that you’re a guest and relatively new, so might not be aware of things like the rules for different forums, so alerted you to that distinction.

IOW, I was trying to be nice and friendly like, and you responded by being an asshole. Good call.

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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/448 "2008-11-14T20:56:21Z")

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I am aware that there are different rules for different forums. Doesn’t change the fact that slinging juvenile insults and dragging the thread off-topic is fucktardish.

So…any word on whether the RNC has verified the full return of all the clothes?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/449 "2008-11-14T21:01:50Z")

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> [@Dripping](#):
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> I am aware that there are different rules for different forums. Doesn’t change the fact that slinging juvenile insults and dragging the thread off-topic is fucktardish.

Apparently not so much, since you seemed to have been laboring under the delusion that name calling would get this thread locked in the pit (re-read your own damn post). Additionally, threads meander all the time, and the name calling wasn’t making it off topic, just ruder.

> [@Dripping](#):
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> So…any word on whether the RNC has verified the full return of all the clothes?

I seriously doubt that the RNC will want to answer any further questions about the clothes. I expect that months from now when expense reports are filed, this will be buried under a heap, and be indistinguishable from any other expense. I **seriously** doubt that there’ll be line items such as an expense noted as “Clothing for Palin and family” and “charitable contribution of line item referenced above”.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/450 "2008-11-15T01:10:48Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Oh, come on. No one’s saying it’s impossible that it was $150,000. Palin is just saying that it didn’t look like $150,000 in clothes to her. It could be that she just doesn’t have a clue what clothes cost at upscale stores in New York. Or it could be that the really expensive stuff was in the 1/3 that was sent back that she never saw. I have no idea. But no one’s accusing anyone of falsifying documents.

You said it was possible the figure was “grossly inflated”. By whom?

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/451 "2008-11-15T01:30:19Z")

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And, once again, the $150K number isn’t something people just pulled out of their asses. You can look at the actual expense report yourself. [Link](http://www.theatlantic.com/images/issues/200810u/palin-clothes.jpg)

The two biggest purchases are from Neiman Marcus, at the mall in Minneapolis, for $75,062.63 and from Saks 5th Avenue, the real one on 5th Avenue, for $41,805.72. The numbers aren’t inflated, in the sense that these are the numbers that the RNC reimbursed people for. So if you’re saying that the numbers are inflated, you’re accusing someone of expense account fraud. Traditionally Sarah Palin is the one who gets accused of this, but you’re free to expand your horizons on the matter.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/452 "2008-11-15T03:04:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> S. PALIN: What is patently false is that I ever asked anybody at this convention to go out and buy me anything. **Certainly, I arrived with an overnight bag. I mean, that wasn’t much.** But if I would have had two minutes out of the day, I could have gone to a store myself and purchased these things.

Bolding mine. An overnight bag? All she brought from Alaska was an overnight bag? So just how rushed was she?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/453 "2008-11-15T05:03:29Z")

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[http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=1904732925&t=1906937164](http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=1904732925&t=1906937164) Another take on Palins take. One step away from stealing from the campaign.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/454 "2008-11-15T15:50:22Z")

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If all she arrived with was an overnight bag\* , then wouldn’t that make it quite easy for her to separate the wheat from the chaff?

\*Do we really believe a former beauty pageant would only bring an overnight bag on the biggest media blitz of her life?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/455 "2008-11-15T15:56:35Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> If all she arrived with was an overnight bag\* , then wouldn’t that make it quite easy for her to separate the wheat from the chaff?
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> \*Do we really believe a former beauty pageant would only bring an overnight bag on the biggest media blitz of her life?

You must realize that when she says she brought an overnight bag, we’re not meant to take that literally. It’s like when she said the teleprompter screwed up so she had to wing parts of speech to the Illinois delegation (or whoever’s ass she was trying to kiss). I mean, we’ve no doubt got photographs, airline documentation, etc of what she did and take with her on the plane to Minneapolis but she wouldn’t consider it a lie if they flatout contradicted her.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/456 "2008-11-15T16:26:04Z")

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She bought 13 bags to take her loot home.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/457 "2008-11-15T18:18:14Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Do we really believe a former beauty pageant would only bring an overnight bag on the biggest media blitz of her life?

It depends on what the term “overnight bag” means…

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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/458 "2008-11-20T16:08:50Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> It depends on what the term “overnight bag” means…

What ? 😕

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**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/459 "2008-11-21T02:26:08Z")

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Nice to know that the Democrats are fair and balanced on this message board.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/460 "2008-11-21T02:36:30Z")

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> [@gravitycrash](#):
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> Nice to know that the Democrats are fair and balanced on this message board.

You say that like it is a bad thing…

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