# So when is Palin giving back all the clothes? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457 "2008-11-06T15:45:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/501 "2008-12-03T20:49:25Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > \*[sub]I reserve the rights to Beauty Pagent Moose Hunter in case the Discovery Channel picks it up next season.[/sub] Can I use that for a song title tho? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/502 "2008-12-04T00:27:52Z")
I left my heart in Wasilla City? Go right ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/503 "2008-12-04T00:36:33Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > No, it’s not fine to say one thing and do another. I never said that. I also never said it wasn’t against the law. My point is that just that I don’t care. I didn’t care when she spent that money to get those clothes and I don’t care now that she won’t (or hasn’t) given it back. > > I know. I know. You all are screaming “How can you not care she broke the law!!!” and I guess you can chalk it up to outrage fatigue. How can I profess to not care and then spend all this time debating my blase attitude? Eh, boredom I guess. I agree with you. If she keeps the clothes and doesn’t pay taxes on them, the fun would only increase. In any case, how can she be a legitimate Alaskan politician without breaking a few laws here and there? ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/504 "2008-12-04T11:52:06Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I left my heart in Wasilla City? > > Go right ahead. ‘Conscience’ or ‘Morals’ would scan better. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/505 "2008-12-04T12:22:09Z")
I’m going to say that the answer to the OP’s question is [about two years.](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ijvcK8P0ztXwMgir7NnkIy4rcI0AD94RH0201) > [@](#): > > Gov. Sarah Palin has added to her financial disclosure forms two free trips that she took nearly two years ago but failed to report. > > Palin, who was Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s running mate, made the disclosures last month, but after Election Day when she and McCain lost to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. The trips were first revealed in a story by The Associated Press in October. > > The free trips were taken in April and May of 2007 and should have been reported within 30 days under state ethics law. The Nov. 17 disclosure forms note that the reports were “not filed timely due to administrative error.” ---
**Author:** ![3acresandatruck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e79b87/32.png) [@3acresandatruck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3acresandatruck)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/506 "2008-12-04T12:56:51Z")
All this makes me wonder. If Palin doesn’t return the clothes, and doesn’t report them on her income tax next April 15, would any US citizen be eligible to report her to the IRS and get the 10% reward? The IRS is still giving 10% to squealers, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/507 "2008-12-04T13:50:17Z")
> [@3acresandatruck](#): > > All this makes me wonder. If Palin doesn’t return the clothes, and doesn’t report them on her income tax next April 15, would any US citizen be eligible to report her to the IRS and get the 10% reward? The IRS is still giving 10% to squealers, isn’t it? All I know is that they don’t just shrug it off when you explain that something was “not filed timely due to administrative error.” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/508 "2008-12-04T16:10:34Z")
\ Fuck, I hate the recent mutation of “timely” into an adverb. \ ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/509 "2008-12-04T16:27:49Z")
Perhaps she’s trying to get a law passed in Alaska setting out that you can’t strip a person of her clothing during winter. Or perhaps she’s working with the NRA “I’ll give you my bra when you take it from my cold, dead hands!” ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/510 "2008-12-04T16:44:02Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > “I’ll give you my bra when you take it from my cold, dead hands!” I think that’s Randy Scheunemann’s line. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/511 "2008-12-04T17:12:44Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > \ Fuck, I hate the recent mutation of “timely” into an adverb. \ With apologies to Matthew Prior, and his use of “timely” as an adverb from about three-hundred years ago: _Let prudence yet obstruct thy venturous way; And take good heed, what voters will think and say; That beauteous Palin vagrant courses took; Her Alaskan house and civil life forsook; That, full of youthful blood, and fond of McCa’n, She from nor’ wood-land with an exile ran. Reflect, that lessen’d fame is ne’er regain’d, And virgin honor, once, is always stain’d; Timely advis’d, the coming evil shun; Better not do the deed, than weep it done. No penance can absolve our guilty fame; Nor tears, that wash out sin, can wash out shame. Then fly the sad effects of desperate love, And leave a banish’d McCa’n through lonely words to rove._ ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/512 "2008-12-05T02:05:59Z")
Huh, you all realise the solution is really really simple for this right? At some point there will be a “public tender” sale at some point for “used campign disposables” or similiar. People will not be able to view the items. It will be posted in some backwords paper with a ciruclation of 15. Sarah will “win” the tender with a bid of a few thousands of dollars and the money donated to charity. Everything squared away hunky dory a-okay you betcha its gonna be good. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/513 "2008-12-05T03:07:09Z")
Nah, she’ll just claim that they’re not really her clothes, she’s just storing them at her house for some friends. I mean, it worked for (former) Senator Stevens, right? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/514 "2008-12-05T05:37:13Z")
Wierd revisionism from the RNC: [Obama raised $104 million toward election’s close](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_money_7) > [@](#): > > Also on Thursday, the Republican National Committee was expected to report spending $30,000 on accessories for McCain running mate Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska. The RNC reported in October that it had spent nearly $150,000 on Palin for clothes and accessories. A party spokesman said Thursday that the expenditures were directed by the McCain campaign and that the garments have been returned to the party. > > “The accessories used by Governor Palin and represented in the Republican National Committee’s filings both in October and December with the Federal Election Commission were the result of coordinated expenditures at the campaign’s direction,” the spokesman, Alex Conant, said. “Accessories have been returned, inventoried, and will be appropriately dispersed to various charities.” There’s $120,000 that’s gone AWOL here, and what about that jacket Palin was wearing last week? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/515 "2008-12-05T08:43:09Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Weird revisionism from the RNC: > [Obama raised $104 million toward election’s close](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_money_7) > There’s $120,000 that’s gone AWOL here, and what about that jacket Palin was wearing last week? ## [This treatment](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16209.html) suggests that the $30,000 is in addition to the already reported $150,000. So it totals to $180,000, so far. [Fox news](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,462184,00.html) reports that other politicians have also spent campaign cash for sartorial purposes. Fox News does not specify the amounts involved. Here’s the data from CREW: ```auto Rep. Andrews, $952.04 Rep. Sanchez, $334.09 Bill Dew, $1,089.16 William Breazeale, $1,000 Andrew MacPherson, Barr campaign staffer, $500.00 ``` According to CREW, these acquisitions violate campaign finance laws. I’ll note that William Breazeale’s use of $1000 of campaign money was three times worse than Sanchez’s $334 purchase. I am appalled by this misuse of funding by, “Reps. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) and Rob Andrews (D-NJ), Utah congressional candidate Bill Dew (R), North Carolina congressional candidate William Breazeale (R), and Andrew MacPherson, campaign staffer for Bob Barr‘s 2008 presidential campaign committee.” They should reimburse these funds to their campaign treasury, with interest. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/516 "2008-12-05T08:51:36Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Fox News does not specify the amounts involved. Actually they said that, “each spent hundreds of dollars on clothing,” which is probably sufficient, though a reference to the $180,000 absorbed by the Palin family might have deserved a mention as well. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/517 "2008-12-05T19:07:37Z")
Don’t mind me, just feedin’ the wolves, don’chaknow. From the [NY Times](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/05/gop-paid-for-palin-fashion-stylist/?hp): > [@](#): > > **G.O.P. Paid Almost $55,000 for Palin Fashion Stylist** > A woman who appears from campaign finance records to have been Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s fashion stylist was paid $54,900 by the Republican National Committee, according to a new report filed with the Federal Election Commission. > > … > > The newest report appears to show about $23,000 in additional charges labeled as “campaign accessories” from a variety of stores, including Saks, Neiman’s, Nordstrom, Bloomingdales, Macy’s, Victoria’s Secret, Brooks Brothers, Ann Taylor and Target. > > \*\*Republican officials have said that _all of the clothing is now in their possession and will be turned over to charity._ > > … > > In addition, the McCain **campaign paid Ms. Palin’s traveling hair stylist and makeup artist more than $110,000** for roughly two months of work, according to campaign finance records. I thought much of this had come out before, but perhaps it was just “rumor” that was defended against (i.e., this is just confirmation). So the G.O.P. has the clothes. [partisan snark]I wonder which homophobic senator is wearing her underwear beneath is suit?[/snark] ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/518 "2008-12-05T19:36:19Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > [[Fox news](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,462184,00.html) reports that other politicians have also spent campaign cash for sartorial purposes. Fox News does not specify the amounts involved. I’m sure that was an accidental oversight, and not at all related to the fact that the other cases are two to three orders of magnitude smaller (comparable to the difference between stealing a ream of the office’s copier paper and stealing one of the office’s laptop computers). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/519 "2008-12-05T23:42:57Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Wierd revisionism from the RNC: > [Obama raised $104 million toward election’s close](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_money_7) > > > [@](#): > > > > Also on Thursday, the Republican National Committee was expected to report spending $30,000 on accessories for McCain running mate Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska. The RNC reported in October that it had spent nearly $150,000 on Palin for clothes and accessories. I thought that Palin was an accessory for McCain. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/520 "2008-12-06T02:10:08Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > Probably a good thing the election went the way it did or things would be all at sixes and sevens in Washington, don’tcha think? Also? (with apologies to Andrew Lloyd Webber) It won’t be easy, you’ll think it strange When I try to explain what I think, and I still need your love after all I’ve been sold You won’t believe me All you will see is a girl you don’t know Although she’s dressed up to the nines At sixes and sevens with you I had to let it happen, I HAD to change Couldn’t stay all my life in A-K Looking out of the window (at Russia), staying out of the cold So I chose the spotlight Running around, buyin’ everything new But I never impressed other than the base I was never expected to do [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457.md?page=27)