# So when is Palin giving back all the clothes?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457 "2008-11-06T15:45:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/581 "2009-04-10T01:01:10Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Um…do you need the word “unholy” in that exclamation? Are there HOLY necromancers I don’t know about?

Well, there’s this guy that rose from the grave after three days and nights. Not just that, but before he had reanimated a fellow that was four days past his expiry date.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/582 "2009-04-10T01:41:16Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Um…do you need the word “unholy” in that exclamation? Are there HOLY necromancers I don’t know about?

Good aligned clerics can Raise Dead, so there’s that. There’s a famouse precedent, too (although some argue he was less of a Cleric, and more of a dual classed Commoner/Deity with some homebrewed spells.)

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/583 "2009-04-10T01:56:09Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> Well, there’s this guy that rose from the grave after three days and nights. Not just that, but before he had reanimated a fellow that was four days past his expiry date.

Raising oneself from the dead is not necromancy. Nor is resurrecting another person for benevolent purposes. Necromancy isn’t just power over death; it implies eviltude.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/584 "2009-04-10T02:32:14Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Um…do you need the word “unholy” in that exclamation? Are there HOLY necromancers I don’t know about?

Holy Necromancers were mentioned in an early-60s comic where Batman and Robin ran into a horde of undead… 😛

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/585 "2009-04-10T02:37:33Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Holy Necromancers were mentioned in an early-60s comic where Batman and Robin ran into a horde of undead… 😛

You’ll pay for this, Superman. Oh, how you’ll pay.

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**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/586 "2009-04-10T20:42:19Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I think she probably decreased the Democrats’ margin of victory.

Really?

Is there a state you can speculate cast its electoral votes fro mccain rather than obama solely because palin was on the ticket? i don’t recall the details of the day, only the celebration at the end.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/587 "2009-04-10T20:52:49Z")

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> [@not\_alice](#):
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> Really?
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> Is there a state you can speculate cast its electoral votes fro mccain rather than obama solely because palin was on the ticket? i don’t recall the details of the day, only the celebration at the end.

I have no citations whatsodamnever and am too lazy to do research for such a pointless hypothetical. I only back up my bullshit in GD & CS. 😃

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**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/588 "2009-04-10T22:40:58Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I have no citations whatsodamnever and am too lazy to do research for such a pointless hypothetical. I only back up my bullshit in GD & CS. 😃

Your claim of “pointless hypothetical” is cite enough for me dammit! 😃

It is more then I got in ~ 600 posts of clusterfucking this week, that’s for sure!

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/589 "2009-05-19T23:20:45Z")

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[FEC: Spending spree to dress Palin was legal](http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/fec-spending-spree-to-dress-palin-was-legal-2009-05-19.html)

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> The FEC dismissed a complaint by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) against Palin and the RNC, ruling that the approximately $150,000 spent on clothing for the governor and her family was permitted as coordinated party expenditures.
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> A Palin spokeswoman said the governor and her supporters are “pleased” to learn that the purchases were in compliance with the law.
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> “The clothes in this campaign were treated just like the many stages upon which the governor stood and the hundreds of lights used to illuminate them; all were used during the campaign and returned upon its conclusion,” Palin spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton said in a statement.  
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> CREW also noted that it remains unclear whether the clothing was ever donated to charity, as Palin and the RNC claimed. Earlier this year, the FEC asked Congress to enact legislation to extend the ban on the personal use of campaign money to all political committees, including party committees and leadership political action committees. Congress has yet to act on this request

Yeah! Palin and the GOP are _beyond reproach_ here!  
It’s all LEGAL!

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/590 "2009-05-19T23:30:08Z")

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Somewhere at Bear Stearns is a bailed-out banker with a very nice skirt.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/591 "2009-05-19T23:42:21Z")

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Yes, but is he wearing any underwear?

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/592 "2009-05-20T21:40:07Z")

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No… and he sits down _a lot._ Especially for yearbook pics.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/593 "2009-05-22T17:08:41Z")

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Palin’s latest grab for headlines is [here](http://www.adn.com). She’s turning down less than 1/30 of the federal stimulus money for reasons that are too stupid for belief, so that she can claim “maverick” status again. What a woefully and deliberately stupid cunt she is.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/594 "2009-05-22T20:11:59Z")

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Has there been a ruling on the power of governors to pick and choose which stimulus funds they want? It was my understanding that they could take all of it, or none at all, because allowing them to pick and choose would constitute a line item veto on a Congressional appropriation. Not even the president has that, and SCOTUS ruled that line item vetos in general would be an unconstitutional infringement on the power of Congress to determine the budget.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/595 "2009-05-22T20:13:07Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Palin’s latest grab for headlines is [here](http://www.adn.com). She’s turning down less than 1/30 of the federal stimulus money for reasons that are too stupid for belief, so that she can claim “maverick” status again. What a woefully and deliberately stupid cunt she is.

Whiskers gone wild?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/596 "2009-05-22T20:34:43Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Has there been a ruling on the power of governors to pick and choose which stimulus funds they want? It was my understanding that they could take all of it, or none at all, because allowing them to pick and choose would constitute a line item veto on a Congressional appropriation. Not even the president has that, and SCOTUS ruled that line item vetos in general would be an unconstitutional infringement on the power of Congress to determine the budget.

Naw, some governors can do it. State governments have different powers from the feds, and sometimes those differences matter.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/597 "2009-05-22T20:50:27Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Has there been a ruling on the power of governors to pick and choose which stimulus funds they want? It was my understanding that they could take all of it, or none at all, because allowing them to pick and choose would constitute a line item veto on a Congressional appropriation. Not even the president has that, and SCOTUS ruled that line item vetos in general would be an unconstitutional infringement on the power of Congress to determine the budget.

Rather than actually refusing to accept any or all of the funds, I presume they’ll accept the full amount and then send their grandstanding fee back to the Treasury.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/598 "2009-07-17T19:38:06Z")

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[FEC: No clothes-buying with campaign funds But watchdog agency dismisses complaint against four candidates](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31951021/ns/politics-more_politics/)

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> Candidates can’t use campaign money to improve their wardrobes, the Federal Election Commission said Thursday in a ruling that nonetheless dismissed a complaint against four congressional candidates who did just that.
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> The FEC said candidates cannot use campaign money for expenses they would have had whether they were running for office or not, such as clothes. The commission said it decided against punishing the four because the amounts spent were modest and the candidates reimbursed their campaigns.

Perhaps Sarah got a heads up on this, knew she was **doomed** , and bowed out of politics.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/599 "2010-09-02T15:51:51Z")

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[Sarah Palin’s Shopping Spree: Yes, There’s More…](http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-spending-201010)

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> On October 23, in a previously unpublished e-mail (quoted below), Palin wrote that she had no idea the clothes would eventually need to be returned, and suggested that she believed the items were being given to her and her family as gifts.  
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> On October 23, two days after stories about Palin’s exorbitant campaign clothing budget first surfaced, Palin e-mailed aides in a fury: “Ridiculous – I’ll try to be patient through this, but this is ridiculous and hypocritical in terms of my values, and prudent use of ‘other people’s money’ – It’s puzzling, even infuriating, why the clothes issue is what it is now. My family was never told that all must be returned … Not until two days ago when I read we may have a challenge in tracking down [her son] Track’s very expensive sweater(s) (that he didn’t request), as they’re either on base at Ft. Wainwright somewhere, or perhaps even overseas …

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-is-palin-giving-back-all-the-clothes/471457/600 "2010-09-02T16:45:26Z")

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Can we finally call this confirmation that Sarah Palin is not an honest person, at least? That she will tell lies when it suits her purposes? Can we all, even the righties, agree on that: she told lies?

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