# So when we know who bombed the Boston Marathon...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 18, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026 "2013-04-18T11:14:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/1 "2013-04-18T11:14:39Z")

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Are we going to throw him in gitmo? Or is that just for the brown people?

If he lives in an apartment building, are we going to blow the whole thing up with a drone, killing everyone in there? After all, the people in there should of known better than to associate with a terrorist, or is just that how we do it for the brown people?

Will we try him in a court of law, where evidence against him is weighed and a case is presented for a jury and judge to decide? Or will we hold him in prison without ever filing charges against him indefinitely… no wait that’s wrong, make that until the “War on terror” is over. Or is that just what we do to the brown people?

Curious minds want to know.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/2 "2013-04-18T11:20:37Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Are we going to throw him in gitmo?

Unlikely.

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> Or is that just for the brown people?

It’s for a very specific subset of people who are predominantly brown.

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> If he lives in an apartment building, are we going to blow the whole thing up with a drone, killing everyone in there?

No.

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> After all, the people in there should of known better than to associate with a terrorist, or is just that how we do it for the brown people?

I’m sensing a theme here. What if the person who did it is brown?

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> Will we try him in a court of law, where evidence against him is weighed and a case is presented for a jury and judge to decide?

Hopefully. Unless he (or she) gets shot during the arrest, or escapes.

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> Or will we hold him in prison without ever filing charges against him indefinitely… no wait that’s wrong, make that until the “War on terror” is over. Or is that just what we do to the brown people?

We put lots of “brown people” on trial. And in prison. Lots and lots of them.

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> Curious minds want to know.

Curious minds want to rant, apparently.

Feel better?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/3 "2013-04-18T11:30:19Z")

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Because if there’s one group of people who you won’t find in U.S. prisons, it’s non-whites.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/4 "2013-04-18T11:31:46Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Because if there’s one group of people who you won’t find in U.S. prisons, it’s non-whites.

We put the whites in there to keep them safe from being assimilated out.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/5 "2013-04-18T12:07:57Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Curious minds want to know.

You misspelled the word “Stupid”.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/6 "2013-04-18T12:13:08Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Are we going to throw him in gitmo? Or is that just for the brown people?
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> If he lives in an apartment building, are we going to blow the whole thing up with a drone, killing everyone in there? After all, the people in there should of known better than to associate with a terrorist, or is just that how we do it for the brown people?
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> Will we try him in a court of law, where evidence against him is weighed and a case is presented for a jury and judge to decide? Or will we hold him in prison without ever filing charges against him indefinitely… no wait that’s wrong, make that until the “War on terror” is over. Or is that just what we do to the brown people?
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> Curious minds want to know.

You should probably be focussing on US citizen on US soil vs foreigner on foreign soil rather than white vs brown. It doesn’t make the answers any more palatable though.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/7 "2013-04-18T12:13:33Z")

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Please do not defame this very real tragedy as a talking point for your political agenda.

It doesn’t matter that said political agenda is the correct stance. If anything, that makes it worse.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/8 "2013-04-18T12:44:59Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> After all, the people in there should of known better than to associate with a terrorist, or is just that how we do it for the brown people?
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It’s “should \*\*\*have \*\*\*known”, not “should of known”.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/9 "2013-04-18T13:27:38Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Curious minds want to rant, apparently.
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> Feel better?

Not yet.

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> You misspelled the word “Stupid”.

I wasn’t trying to spell out what your mother calls you, so no…

> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> You should probably be focussing on US citizen on US soil vs foreigner on foreign soil rather than white vs brown. It doesn’t make the answers any more palatable though.

Probably right.

> [@BigT](#):
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> Please do not defame this very real tragedy as a talking point for your political agenda.
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> It doesn’t matter that said political agenda is the correct stance. If anything, that makes it worse.

Why not draw parallels? I think they sometimes elucidate by putting things into context.

My point is - we would do horrible things to people who are only suspected of having done something like this, as well as to people around those suspected - innocent or not, simply because they are brown and live elsewhere.

Why? And why not do the same thing here? Does it stop being evil when the actions are done across some imaginary border? Or is it always evil?

> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It’s “should \*\*\*have \*\*\*known”, not “should of known”.

Thank you for that correction, sir. Even thought it would have been more useful had it come 4 minutes after my post, I remain grateful.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/10 "2013-04-18T13:30:09Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> > [@Morgyn](#):
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> > It’s “should \*\*\*have \*\*\*known”, not “should of known”.
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> Thank you for that correction, sir.

\<stern look over horn-rimmed spectacles\> Ma’am.

(OK, that last is in jest. There’s no way you could have known.)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/11 "2013-04-18T13:40:38Z")

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That’s deep, man. You are so out there.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/12 "2013-04-18T13:40:46Z")

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First we will ship them to Gitmo, then we will hold them indefinately while simultainiously killing them with a drone strike and then to assuage our collective rage, invade Sweden.

But only if they are brown-ish. Or a [white kid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh).

Is that the answer you were fishing for?

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/13 "2013-04-18T14:24:02Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> First we will ship them to Gitmo, then we will hold them indefinately while simultainiously killing them with a drone strike and then to assuage our collective rage, invade Sweden.
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> But only if they are brown-ish. Or a [white kid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh).
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> Is that the answer you were fishing for?

Well, not so much fishing for, but hoping for something like:

“Hey you know, we should probably deal with terrorists abroad in a way that is similar to how we deal with them internally, so you know, we don’t seem like a bunch asshole hypocrites, willing to inflict atrocities on anyone, NOT American.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/14 "2013-04-18T15:09:38Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> If he lives in an apartment building, are we going to blow the whole thing up with a drone, killing everyone in there? After all, the people in there should of known better than to associate with a terrorist, or is just that how we do it for the brown people?

Why would we do that when we could, say, _call the police_? Last I checked, Boston is not in a state of lawlessness and insurrection where the police department is nonexistant and the government is openly sheltering the bomber.

Your analogy fails.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/15 "2013-04-18T15:16:04Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> If he lives in an apartment building, are we going to blow the whole thing up with a drone, killing everyone in there? After all, the people in there should of known better than to associate with a terrorist, or is just that how we do it for the brown people?

Don’t be ridiculous. We’ll wait until he attends a wedding and blow that up.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/16 "2013-04-18T15:25:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Last I checked, Boston is not in a state of lawlessness and insurrection where the police department is nonexistant and the government is openly sheltering the bomber.

Detroit, OTOH…

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/17 "2013-04-18T17:02:33Z")

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I know this is the Pit, but who’d have jurisidiction to try the suspects; Massachusetts, the feds, or both? Since MA doesn’t have the death penalty it’s kind of a major issue.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/18 "2013-04-18T17:04:49Z")

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FWIW, the FBI is in charge of the investigation, implying the Feds would have first crack.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/19 "2013-04-18T17:07:51Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I know this is the Pit, but who’d have jurisidiction to try the suspects; Massachusetts, the feds, or both?

I imagine there are both state and federal crimes they can be prosecuted under. It will be a negotiation between the DAs and politicians as to which charges get filed first.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-when-we-know-who-bombed-the-boston-marathon/656026/20 "2013-04-18T17:16:32Z")

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Why would someone caught on U.S. soil for a U.S. terrorist attack be thrown in Guantanamo? That doesn’t make any fucking sense.

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