# So when's this guy gonna get off the crane?

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**Created:** [May 27, 2005, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741 "2005-05-27T11:44:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/1 "2005-05-27T11:44:01Z")

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[Link](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/27/crane.man/index.html)

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> ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) – A Florida man sought in his ex-girlfriend’s beating death remained atop an 18-story crane early Friday, ignoring pleas of negotiators and his sister to give himself up.
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> Carl Edward Roland, 41, climbed the crane at an Atlanta construction site about 4 p.m. Wednesday. He has spent most of the time lying on a metal grate on the crane’s arm.
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> Pennington said police will continue efforts to coax Roland down for as long as it takes. “We want him to come down,” he said. “I know he’s told them he wasn’t ready to come down.”
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> He said the negotiators – who are rotating every few hours as they try to persuade Roland to surrender – are “outstanding.”

I wonder what people hope to accomplish in these situations? You either come down dead, or you come down alive and the cuffs go on. I don’t know of any third option.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/2 "2005-05-27T12:16:44Z")

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Sleep deprivation will get him down…one way or another.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/3 "2005-05-27T12:45:46Z")

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He’ll come down dead. He really has nothing to live for now. Either he jumps or falls off whilst sleeping.

This piece of shit should have thought about this before he killed his gf. He could have been sleeping soundly in bed right now, but now his only option is to die.

I don’t get the mentality of the crazies anymore. But maybe he’s crazy enough to come down voluntarily, who knows. He’ll make it easier on everyone if he just jumps.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/4 "2005-05-27T12:47:48Z")

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I thought the title was “So when’s this guy gonna get off the cane” and thought, “What’s Bobby Brown done now?”

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**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/5 "2005-05-27T13:12:33Z")

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Ok, so he went up there 4 pm Wednesday local time, and it’s now 9 am Friday local time. Any word on whether or not he’s still up there? I’m thinking that maybe a couple instances of starting to nod off and almost falling might scare him into coming down.

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/6 "2005-05-27T13:16:11Z")

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I can attest that every driver in the area hopes it is sooner rather than later.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/7 "2005-05-27T13:17:29Z")

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All I can think of is if he was a bear we would have used a tranquilizer dart on the fool already.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/8 "2005-05-27T13:36:07Z")

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I predict a dry dive.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/9 "2005-05-27T13:52:09Z")

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He seems surprisingly well-dressed for a “Crazy Perched in a Crane Guy”.

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/10 "2005-05-27T14:17:59Z")

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Not all of us crazies are fashion impaired you know.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/11 "2005-05-27T14:23:34Z")

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He’s not accepting food or water, so it can’t be too much longer. How long can a person go without water again?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/12 "2005-05-27T14:26:16Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> He’s not accepting food or water, so it can’t be too much longer. How long can a person go without water again?

Usually no more than 3 days.  
Favorable conditions could extend it to 5.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/13 "2005-05-27T14:31:22Z")

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I’d love to see him try taking a dump from up there.

Actually, I’d like to try that myself.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/14 "2005-05-27T14:34:01Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> I’d love to see him try taking a dump from up there.
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> Actually, I’d like to try that myself.

Good odds he’s done it.

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**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/15 "2005-05-27T15:22:02Z")

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> [@Paul in Saudi](#):
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> All I can think of is if he was a bear we would have used a tranquilizer dart on the fool already.

Seriously. Ye gods, I can’t believe he’s still up there. Let the guy jump, shoot him with a tranquilizer dart and take him down, hell, shoot him with a gun, I don’t care, but it’s just ridiculous that this has gone on for two days now. One person shouldn’t be allowed to bring an entire neighborhood to a halt like this.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/16 "2005-05-27T15:29:19Z")

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For those of us who have never been to Atlanta, where is this crane and how many blocks are they putting barriers around?

Poor city, first that monster Brian Nichols and now this. At least you know where this one is and you don’t have to lock down the schools or anything.

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**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/17 "2005-05-27T18:42:12Z")

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I haven’t been in that neighborhood recently, so maybe somebody who’s actually 'round those parts can pinpoint the location a little better, but it’s approximately [here](http://maps.google.com/maps?q=atlanta+buckhead&ll=33.837952,-84.380071&spn=0.009796,0.020249&hl=en)–Peachtree Road, which you can see is a major artery, is closed off right there.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/18 "2005-05-27T18:48:51Z")

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Is he still up there?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/19 "2005-05-27T18:51:24Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> Usually no more than 3 days.  
> Favorable conditions could extend it to 5.

Didn’t Schiavo last a couple of weeks?  
FWIW, the woman he killed went to my high school. The murderer used to work in a little software shop in the building across the street from my office. I didn’t know him but I did just pop in there two or so weeks ago just to ask what kind of company it was… the nice woman at the reception gave me a card and some info saying that they were hiring, including sales positions, one of which he’s apparently vacated.

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whens-this-guy-gonna-get-off-the-crane/305741/20 "2005-05-27T19:03:06Z")

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Negotiations haven’t worked. How about the biggest, meanest looking high steel walker guy, to run out at him screaming, “GET THE F\*\*K OFFA MY GODDAM CRANE!” He’ll jump.

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