# So where could Rush Limbaugh go to escape universal healthcare? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 30, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758 "2012-06-30T00:52:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/21 "2012-06-30T03:05:49Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > China isn’t a rich country. It holds lots of US government debt, but that doesn’t mean a great deal in the scheme of things. The only OECD member states without universal healthcare are Mexico and Turkey. Times are a changin’. Turkey has universal health care: [http://www.bodrumbulletin.com/community/useful-information/623-universal-health-insurance-in-turkey](http://www.bodrumbulletin.com/community/useful-information/623-universal-health-insurance-in-turkey) , as do Mexico, China, and any number of nations that up until recently did not [Developing nations on path to make health insurance universal, even as Republicans push to repeal Affordable Care Act | The New Republic](http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/103311/obamacare-china-mexico-universal-health-insurance) . Out there in wiki-land there’s a political map of the world that identifies nations as having universal health care, getting universal health care, or do not have universal health care. I started going through the ones without universal health care (Turkey, Belarus, Bolivia, Peru, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc.), only to discover that the map was out-of-date. The world has been rushing to universal health care. I did not look at Cayman Islands or Bermuda. The only other places that did not have universal health care were nations so poor that they really did not have what we would think of a health care systems, such as countries in Central Africa. As far as I could find, the USA was unique in that it could afford a good health care system and chose not to have a universal health care system, as oppsed to not being able to afford a health care system in the first place. All other nations that can afford a health care system have chosen universal health care. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/22 "2012-06-30T03:06:45Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Limbaugh’s heaven is Haiti. > > Flat, low income tax and you can find your way around that. A government so weak and dysfunctional that any regulation can be subverted with a bribe. Everybody has to fend for themselves. The poor are punished every day for their status in life while the rich can live in luxury. There are millions of people you can point to and assure yourself that you are better and smarter than them and that is why you are rich and they are poor. Hardly any gun control. Aristade armed the slums and the bullets are still flying. > > They don’t waste money on roads, parks and infrastructure. Environment regulations are practically non-existent. Corporations can do just about anything they want and can call the shots. > > UHC? You don’t need to worry about that because the health care is uniformly terrible. > > Haiti is Limbaugh heaven. You can [see the border](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100114-haiti-earthquake-landslides/) between Haiti and the Dominican Republic from orbit. It does fit well with the Republican lay-waste-to-the-land philosophy. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/23 "2012-06-30T03:12:22Z")
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/24 "2012-06-30T03:19:06Z")
Bermuda is implementing universal health care: [http://www.nhp.bm/](http://www.nhp.bm/) . ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/25 "2012-06-30T03:28:12Z")
Cayman Islands has universal health care with the exception that rich people are not covered: [http://www.hic.ky/faqs.php](http://www.hic.ky/faqs.php) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/26 "2012-06-30T03:28:15Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Its a gov’t attempt to provide health coverage to all US citizens. Sounds like Universal Health Care to me. It’s not UHC. I might “attempt” to be an Olympic athlete, but that doesn’t make me one. Of course Limbaugh, being enormously wealthy, can live anywhere in the world he wants and then travel for the best healthcare when he needs it. The idea that he will suffer if he moves to a country without UHC is laughable. He can afford to have a private doctor on call 24/7 anywhere on earth. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/27 "2012-06-30T03:33:29Z")
It’s interesting to look at what citizens have expected from the state over the years. Way the hell back, it was protection from invaders. Then added to this was protection from rulers. Then trade. Then infrastructure. Then civil rights. Now health care. In the march of civilization, Rush is a dog turd to be stepped over. ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/28 "2012-06-30T03:44:43Z")
I hear the Somali Republic is a real libertarian paradise…and they welcome pederasts. Rush should find it congenial there. SS ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/29 "2012-06-30T03:58:27Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > It’s interesting to look at what citizens have expected from the state over the years. Way the hell back, it was protection from invaders. Then added to this was protection from rulers. Then trade. Then infrastructure. Then civil rights. Now health care. In the march of civilization, Rush is a dog turd to be stepped over. What have you got against dog turds? ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/30 "2012-06-30T04:00:02Z")
I think Rush could find true happines in Somalia. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/31 "2012-06-30T04:02:50Z")
> [@SeldomSeen](#): > > I hear the Somali Republic is a real libertarian paradise Oh, please not this BS in GQ. It’s bad enough when it crops up in GD, but presented as fact? No. Somalia is a failed state, bordering on anarchy. Libertarianism is not anarchy. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/32 "2012-06-30T04:05:45Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, please not this BS in GQ. It’s bad enough when it crops up in GD, but presented as fact? No. Somalia is a failed state, bordering on anarchy. Libertarianism is not anarchy. Libertarianism is anarchy for the rich. And I’ve seen more than one libertarian speak of Somalia with approval, because at least they don’t have the Ultimate Evil of government ruining everything. Of course, somehow they never decide to _move_ there… ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/33 "2012-06-30T04:17:10Z")
I would just like to add, in the true spirit of GQ threads, that Obama is a dog turd. After you. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/34 "2012-06-30T04:32:32Z")
As opposed to being one who likes fine tang of faintly scented urine on his palate. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/35 "2012-06-30T04:44:12Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > I would just like to add, in the true spirit of GQ threads, that Obama is a dog turd. > > After you. I hate posts from Al Qaeda members that hate Obama for killing Osama binLaden. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/36 "2012-06-30T06:13:41Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Libertarianism is anarchy for the rich. No, it’s not. If you wan to spew that opinion in other forums, that’s your perogative. But it’s not a fact, and you’re not going to get away with saying that in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/37 "2012-06-30T06:57:10Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > No, it’s not. If you wan to spew that opinion in other forums, that’s your perogative. But it’s not a fact, and you’re not going to get away with saying that in this forum. As Pasolini had one of his fascist characters say “We are the true anarchists”. Anarchism and libertarianism both wish to limit to collectivist powers of government, or remove them as far as possible. Anarchists differ from Libertarians in that they think it’ll end well with humans becoming virtuous and co-operative and so on, while fascists, believe in a war of all against all in which the strong will prosper. But to answer the OP, he obviously isn’t going anywhere. Not Costa Rica, not Canada as some others seem to be planning, nowhere. It’s just rhetoric. But if he did, then probably China. Hasn’t accumulated too much regulation or taxation or suchlike as yet, still popular with the likes of the Adam Smith Institute and has some enclaves like Shanghai with a Western style of living, if you’ve got the money. ---
**Author:** ![Shosy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@Shosy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shosy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/38 "2012-06-30T07:07:23Z")
Now we’re talking about the fat guy, not the band, right? I’m sure there would be little problem for him to get a shack slid off an C-130 in Antartica then (assuming his taxes are pain up) renounce his US citizenship and arrange for oxy drops once a week ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/39 "2012-06-30T10:35:57Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Cayman Islands has universal health care with the exception that rich people are not covered: [http://www.hic.ky/faqs.php](http://www.hic.ky/faqs.php) I live here. We don’t have UHC. Not even close. Cayman no more has UHC than the US does with Obamacare. There are gaps. If you have no job but you have assets then you have no government provided health care. The employer is required to maintain insurance. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758/40 "2012-06-30T10:58:01Z")
I thought Rush was just a Conservative strawman the Family Guy writers made up; now y’all saying he’s real… What’s next? the Cookie Monster is real too? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-could-rush-limbaugh-go-to-escape-universal-healthcare/626758.md?page=3)