# So who decided to mix THESE veggies?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 2, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024 "2018-02-02T13:20:51Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/21 "2018-02-02T18:10:17Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I find they tend to be mealy. I do vaguely remember liking broad beans when my paternal grandmother made them. They probably involved bacon grease and corn bread.

That sounds like they were undercooked.  
I find that they have to be left in the microwave longer than most vegetables.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/22 "2018-02-02T18:15:34Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> If that were true, then Satan has some tasty droppings.

Well, of _course_, you dummy, he _is_ the devil incarnate.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/23 "2018-02-02T18:17:25Z")

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> [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](#):
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> You could save on airfare and just drive to Ohio
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> [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lima,+OH)

Well, I was hoping that the Limas were sister cities, but no! Lima, Ohio is sister cities with Harima, Hyōgo, Japan. Bummer.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/24 "2018-02-03T02:50:18Z")

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**Qadgop** , if the idea is just to complete the proteins, then all you’d need would be corn and one of the beans (or any other grain-and-legume). Though I suppose you’d get a better mix of vitamins by including others.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/25 "2018-02-03T03:11:28Z")

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I think the idea is to make money.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/26 "2018-02-03T03:29:10Z")

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Veg-all is used only for soups in my house. You have to drain the liquid that is the nasty part.  
Otoh, we love lima/butter beans  
Mr.Wrekker grows them in his garden and I put-up many in the freezer for winter eating, with cornbread, of course.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/27 "2018-02-03T04:57:19Z")

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I confess; I’m also one of those weird people who likes lima beans. I’m the only one in my family who does. I blame Campbell’s. I got hooked on the unpopular legume because it’s in their Vegetable Alphabet Soup.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/28 "2018-02-03T05:11:01Z")

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I love lima beans and eat mixed veggies all the time. In fact, I can’t think of a veggie that I don’t like.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/29 "2018-02-03T06:00:16Z")

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I love lima beans; I like butter beans too, but I don’t eat them because they make me VERY gassy, whereas limas don’t do that to me. :o The best limas are the ones that are sold frozen, and I steam them in a basket. MmmmmmM!

Canned or frozen vegetable combinations like Veg-All aren’t really intended to be eaten on their own IMNSHO; they are made to be used in a quick soup or stew.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/30 "2018-02-03T16:57:28Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> OK, so now I gotta know why some brands dropped the much maligned lima? Was it a result of consumer demand?
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> . . .

Consumer demand, definitely. I am one who won’t buy them with lima beans in them. If I accidentally get the wrong ones, I will pick the lima beans out. Can’t stand 'em.

It has always seemed to me that far more lima beans are grown than are sold (Retail) and far more are sold than are eaten. I wonder why people keep planting/selling them?

Is the Lima Bean Council a super-powerful lobby or something?

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/31 "2018-02-03T17:21:10Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Consumer demand, definitely. I am one who won’t buy them with lima beans in them. If I accidentally get the wrong ones, I will pick the lima beans out. Can’t stand 'em.

When I was a kid, whenever Mom served mixed vegetables, we were allowed to pick out _one_ of the veggies to not eat. We almost always chose the lima beans to leave behind, though there was a while when I thought the green beans were worse (too tough and chewy).

As for why those particular veggies are the traditional Mixed Vegetables, I wouldn’t rule out size (peas and corn kernels and lima beans are all about the same size, and carrots can be cut up into little cubes that match them well) and aesthetics (an appealing mix of colors).

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/32 "2018-02-03T17:37:09Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I wonder why people keep planting/selling them?

Like other legumes, with the right bacteria in the soil, they fix nitrogen. As part of a crop rotation plan that effectively provides free fertilizer to support the next year’s crop. That cost savings across multiple years helps even a less popular crop make financial sense.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/33 "2018-02-03T17:45:34Z")

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Checked the local market. I could find frozen peas and carrots; peas, carrots and beans; peas, carrots, beans and limas; peas, carrots, beans and corn; peas, carrots, beans and onions; corn and limas; and peas, carrots, onions and corn. Differing brands, of course, but all in the same freezer section. Plus all the veggies separately.

The main use for any of them around our house is in cottage pie.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/34 "2018-02-03T19:03:05Z")

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Can you still get succotash in the supermarkets? I realize that obviously you can put your own together pretty easily. Just wondering.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/35 "2018-02-05T13:41:10Z")

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No lima hatred here. Just extreme lima indifference. I love veg and will eat my mixed veg either with or without the lima.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/36 "2018-02-05T13:43:05Z")

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I’ve eaten whole cans of Lima beans, not even heated up. We got some on accident, and I was surprised I actually liked them.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/37 "2018-02-05T13:59:11Z")

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Damn, this post just reminded me of something I have tried to forget for about 45 years. Beans and motherfuckers. C rations used to have one with Lima beans and ham. NASTY! I don’t know when they were named but it was prob. in the 1940’s when the ones we were eating were made. I was eating them in the late 1960’s.

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I love lima beans; I like butter beans too, but I don’t eat them because they make me VERY gassy, whereas limas don’t do that to me. :o The best limas are the ones that are sold frozen, and I steam them in a basket. MmmmmmM!
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> Canned or frozen vegetable combinations like Veg-All aren’t really intended to be eaten on their own IMNSHO; they are made to be used in a quick soup or stew.

Aren’t limas and butter beans the same thing? (So far as I can find, they do seem to be two names for the same bean.)

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/39 "2018-02-06T12:36:28Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Not frozen, but canned mixed vegetables: Veg-All. Are the WORST tasting things imaginable. Even for canned veg, these are just VILE. I don’t know how it’s possible to utterly ruin the innocuous canned vegetable, but they manage to do it.

**QFT!** Something really wrong with that.

Canned veggies are just lousy in general, and Veg-All is just grotesque, and I’m pretty sure that they all have substantially zero food value. I’ve found they can be made edible (if only just barely) by heating them up with all or some combination of:  
[ul][li] Butter[/li][li] Italian seasoning[/li][\*] Some dried minced onion[/ul]Oh, and as already mentioned, _drain the liquid off first!_

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-decided-to-mix-these-veggies/808024/40 "2018-02-06T12:41:47Z")

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But there are also frozen veggie combos in a variety of interesting mixes, involving such goodies as sugar snap peas, sliced water chestnuts, mushrooms, etc. It’s not always just peas, corn, green beans, carrots, and lima beans. These mixtures do, however, always have a lot of broccoli.

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