# So who should play Catwoman?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 21, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293 "2008-07-21T19:20:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/61 "2008-07-22T18:54:32Z")

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While Batman has a really good set of (comic book) villains, I think Spiderman is right there.

First Tier

Doc Ock  
Green Goblin  
Venom

Second Tier

Sandman  
Kingpin (Would be higher, but Daredevil took him over)  
Lizard  
Scorpion  
Chameleon  
Vulture  
Kraven  
Electro  
Mysterio  
Rhino

Third Tier

Hammerhead  
Morbius  
Jackal  
Hydro-Man  
Carnage  
Beetle  
Hobgoblin  
Shocker

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/62 "2008-07-22T19:07:23Z")

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I would put Hobgoblin in at least the 2nd tier. The original Hobgoblin storyline was fairly long-lasting and central.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/63 "2008-07-22T19:14:12Z")

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Not to question anyone’s taste, but in lieu of a thin hollywood-type body, wouldn’t some people (like me) prefer a nice hourglass figure filling out that cat suit…like [this](http://kimkardashianpictures.info/wallpapers/96372_kim_kardashian5_122_576lo.jpg) one?

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/64 "2008-07-22T19:28:10Z")

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[QUOTE=middleman]  
While Batman has a really good set of (comic book) villains, I think Spiderman is right there.

First Tier

Doc Ock  
Green Goblin  
Venom

Second Tier

Sandman  
Kingpin (Would be higher, but Daredevil took him over)  
Lizard  
Scorpion  
Chameleon  
Vulture  
Kraven  
Electro  
Mysterio  
Rhino

Third Tier

Hammerhead  
Morbius  
Jackal  
Hydro-Man  
Carnage  
Beetle  
Hobgoblin  
Shocker  
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Jeez, I never realized how many Spiderman villians were named after animals.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/65 "2008-07-22T19:31:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Taber]  
Jeez, I never realized how many Spiderman villians were named after animals.  
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You should see the Spider-Ham equivalents!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/66 "2008-07-22T19:41:20Z")

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Never mind…

_removes embarrassing mistake of naming a hero (though an oddball one) as a villain…_

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**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/67 "2008-07-22T19:44:36Z")

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I thought Dr. Doom was a Spider Man villain. He was certainly the first Spider Man villain I knew of from the sunday comics.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/68 "2008-07-22T19:44:52Z")

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If people think Dita von Teese, then how about the actress who portrayed the woman she stole all her schtick from? Film’s Bettie Page, [Gretchen Mol](http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2007/10/16-22/gretchen-mol-tod%20williams-ptolemy-celebrity-babies.jpg)

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/69 "2008-07-22T19:53:17Z")

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Well, the natural choice would be Jocelyn Wildenstein.

Jokes aside, I’m pulling for Ali Larter. [Rawr](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/249833~Ali-Larter-Posters.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/70 "2008-07-22T20:00:24Z")

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Have you all forgotten **Robot Arm’s First Law of Superhero Movie Castling**? You ignore it at your peril. For those who are new here:

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> In a superhero movie, cast the lead roles with actors who can convincingly play the secret identity.

Anyone can put on a costume. _Iron Man_ worked because Robert Downey Jr. was so good as Tony Stark. Tobey Maguire was a good Peter Parker. Christopher Reeve was a great Clark Kent. Jessica Alba is no astronaut.

But I’m not familiar enough with the current canon to know where Catwoman fits these days. She’s been a rich socialite and a mousy secretary in the past, right?

Find the right actress to play her out of the costume (you know what I mean) and the rest will work.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/71 "2008-07-22T20:07:36Z")

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[QUOTE=MrDibble]  
If people think Dita von Teese, then how about the actress who portrayed the woman she stole all her schtick from? Film’s Bettie Page, [Gretchen Mol](http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2007/10/16-22/gretchen-mol-tod%20williams-ptolemy-celebrity-babies.jpg)  
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As the one who originally suggested Dita von Teese, I definitely think Mol would work as well, if not better (since she’s an actress).

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/72 "2008-07-22T20:07:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Robot Arm]  
Jessica Alba is no astronaut.  
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But she is a convincing space cadet.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/73 "2008-07-22T20:09:16Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
And as far as Wonder Woman, you have the Cheetah, Ares, and…um…a bunch of Nazis. I think. If you count the TV show.  
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And a [gigantic, racially insensitive egg.](http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/EggFu-WW157.JPG)

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/74 "2008-07-22T20:11:49Z")

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[QUOTE=KneadToKnow]  
But she is a convincing space cadet.  
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ZING!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/75 "2008-07-22T20:20:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
And a [gigantic, racially insensitive egg.](http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/EggFu-WW157.JPG)  
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Oh, my god…if I ever knew about that one, I probably scrambled the memories in self-defense.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/76 "2008-07-22T20:30:09Z")

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I have to go with Cherize Theron. She has played slinky in Aeon Flux but I was thinking more of what she did in (her Academy Award winning performance in) Monster. She has the chops to play a heartless villian.

I don’t want to hijack this thread, so should we start up another to talk about Batman movie villians in general like Hugh Jackman as the Penguin or Mike Meyers as The Riddler?

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/77 "2008-07-22T20:45:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
And a gigantic, racially insensitive egg.  
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Um … wow. What year was that?

That rocket/locket thing has got to cause all kinds of confusion at the flunky level.

And to the OP, cast [Rosario Dawson](http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/846/Rosario_Dawson_002.jpg) and there’s a chance I would go see that movie.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/78 "2008-07-22T20:51:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Ichbin Dubist]  
Um … wow. What year was that?

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1. 

[All you’ll ever need to know about Egg Fu.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_Tzu)

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/79 "2008-07-22T21:36:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut]  
Not to question anyone’s taste, but in lieu of a thin hollywood-type body, wouldn’t some people (like me) prefer a nice hourglass figure filling out that cat suit…like [this](http://kimkardashianpictures.info/wallpapers/96372_kim_kardashian5_122_576lo.jpg) one?  
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I was going to post that someone said her on page one but IT WAS YOU!!!

If you’re going for hourglass body only, Salma Hayek. And Katherine Heigl; she could play glamor but I think she would crash and burn acting against Christian Bale.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-who-should-play-catwoman/457293/80 "2008-07-22T21:45:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
1965.

[All you’ll ever need to know about Egg Fu.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_Tzu)  
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Amazing. It’s nice that the Wikipedia category [“Fictional eggs”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_eggs) has more than one entry.

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