# So who'd win in an all-superheroes fight?

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**Created:** [February 21, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445 "2006-02-21T05:48:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/1 "2006-02-21T05:48:48Z")

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If all the superheroes started fighting each other–no teamups, no alliances, every man (or woman, or alien, or swamp thing) for themselves–who’d win?

Anybody from DC or Marvel (and their offshoots, like Vertigo, Elseworlds, All Star, Ultimates, Marvel Knights, etc.) is fair game, and all history up to the present in is play–for instance, the events so far of Infinite Crisis are applicable. You can bring in multiple versions of the same character if you want.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/2 "2006-02-21T05:51:31Z")

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Batman. If… he’s prepared.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/3 "2006-02-21T05:52:57Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> Batman. If… he’s prepared.

Thank you, **Askia**.

Serious replies, anyone? 😉

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/4 "2006-02-21T05:53:41Z")

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Nabu-powered Dr Fate.

He defeated the very embodiment of the Wrath of God.

It’s really hard to top that.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/5 "2006-02-21T05:54:13Z")

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Is the Spectre still the personification of The Wrath of God? Whichever version of the Spectre was The Wrath of God, he’s my pick.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/6 "2006-02-21T05:55:34Z")

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Curse you, Tengu!

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/7 "2006-02-21T05:59:51Z")

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_muttleylaughs_

Spectre was my first choice, actually, but then I remembered Fate managed to bring him low (albiet at the cost of his own life) in the DoV special, so I had to change my vote.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/8 "2006-02-21T06:06:31Z")

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Would any of the Superman analogues (Miracleman, Supreme, Sentry, etc.) have a chance against Dr. Fate or the Spectre?

In a more street-level fight, I think it would be hard for anyone, even Batman, to beat the Midnighter on a good day. Deathstroke would certainly hold his own in a fight like that too – those three in a brawl would be great, especially if sneaking and strategy could be involved.

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**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/9 "2006-02-21T06:29:57Z")

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I’m voting for Dr. Manhattan. Seriously, the guy can do whatever he wants.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/10 "2006-02-21T07:08:01Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Thank you, **Askia**.
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> Serious replies, anyone? 😉

What? I was serious… 😃

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/11 "2006-02-21T08:07:35Z")

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Another vote for Dr Manhattan. His precognition would give him the edge over the other hyperpowers.

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**Author:** ![Gerome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gerome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gerome)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/12 "2006-02-21T08:39:54Z")

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Unless someone manages to deploy tachyon generators again. That seems to fuzz him up.

Course, he’s still basically impossible to kill.

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**Author:** ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/13 "2006-02-21T09:22:04Z")

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Jesse Custer?

Granted, normal firearms can take him out, but he could kill Dr. Manhattan (and probably God himself) just by telling him to die. On the other hand, he pretty much loses automatically versus any superhero who can`t speak English. But how many of those are there?

Batman still beats Jesse Custer, if he`s prepared. A pair of earplugs would do it, although Custer could at least hold his own in the ensuing fist fight, IMHO. So I dunno.

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**Author:** ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/14 "2006-02-21T09:23:37Z")

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Another thought…do the Endless from Neil Gaiman`s Sandman count?

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**Author:** ![DfrntBreign](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DfrntBreign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DfrntBreign)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/15 "2006-02-21T09:28:43Z")

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> [@Coin](#):
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> Another thought…do the Endless from Neil Gaiman`s Sandman count?

That’s what I’m thinking. It’s already been decided. Death turns out the lights and closes the door when the last line has been written into the Book of Destiny. Right?

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/16 "2006-02-21T09:41:53Z")

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Blue Beetle. He hides in the pile of corpses until there’s only one other hero still left alive, but utterly exhausted from the battle, and cracks him or her in the back of the skull with one of Wolverine’s severed legs.

😃

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**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/17 "2006-02-21T10:01:49Z")

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The Saint of Killers from _Preacher_.

He shot God dead.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/18 "2006-02-21T12:02:50Z")

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Slapstick. He’s a friggin’ cartoon character fer chrissakes. Completely indestructable. 😃

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/19 "2006-02-21T12:59:53Z")

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Mr. Rodgers in a blood-stained sweater.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whod-win-in-an-all-superheroes-fight/345445/20 "2006-02-21T13:08:38Z")

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my first impulse is always Ambush Bug.

But honestly I’ve got to go with Doctor Manhattan. He literally has the power to rewrite anything he wants AND he knows everything that’s going to happen to the universe ever. It’s a winning combination.

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