# So who's going to see Sarah's movie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 12, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760 "2011-07-12T16:07:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/61 "2011-07-16T00:53:50Z")
> [@Dingbang](#): > > I’m with you there, Jayjay. Lots of candidates in this thread. Um…except that it’s YOU I’m talking about. Funny about that… [Quote=Chefguy] How about taking your threadshitting to the Pit, boys. [/quote] Just making sure everyone realizes I was referring to **Dingbang** , not **Jophiel**. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/62 "2011-07-16T18:00:14Z")
> [@Dingbang](#): > > Or to lead a conservative movement and to rid her state of the burden of having a governor who is (unfairly and viciously) vilified by the national media, resulting in distracting and costly lawsuits, etc. What movement is she leading? The Tea Party? My understanding is that there are no “real” leaders in that movement. How is she leading the movement any more than any other pundit (seeing as she’s not a politician anymore)? One would think that a sitting governor would have more credibility at leading any kind of movement than one who quit halfway through her elected term. **Jophiel** already offered a good response regarding the lawsuits. > [@Dingbang](#): > > Purely opinion. And not well founded opinion either. I’ve seen plenty of interviews where she’s been asked questions about policy in which her answers were, shall we say, not on point or superficial at best, and indicated a profound lack of knowledge of the issues involved. Granted, she’s not the only person who has this tendency. > [@Dingbang](#): > > Ditto. You call these facts? If you truly think she has not been savaged by the media, you just aren’t paying attention. You don’t have to admire her, support her, or like her to acknowledge that. She hasn’t been savaged by the media. She’s been COVERED by the media, because that’s what she wants. When the media coverage is about mistakes she’s made, or bad decisions she’s made, or actual negative events, that’s not “savaging” her - that’s news. She wanted the spotlight. She’s got it, and it’s not always ass-kissing. If she does something stupid, and it gets media coverage, well, that’s the way the news works. She doesn’t get to determine that all media coverage of her is always positive, all the time. > [@Dingbang](#): > > Literally? Really? As you say, this is nothing but knee-jerk opinion. Tell me who you support (I suspect it starts with an O and ends with a ma) and I can make the same wild condemnations. I already admitted that this was my opinion. I simply cannot see any net positive contribution she’s made to the public political discourse. I can, however, see a large number of negative contributions. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/63 "2011-07-16T18:17:55Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > What movement is she leading? The Tea Party? My understanding is that there are no “real” leaders in that movement. How is she leading the movement any more than any other pundit (seeing as she’s not a politician anymore)? > > One would think that a sitting governor would have more credibility at leading any kind of movement than one who quit halfway through her elected term. > > **Jophiel** already offered a good response regarding the lawsuits. > > I’ve seen plenty of interviews where she’s been asked questions about policy in which her answers were, shall we say, not on point or superficial at best, and indicated a profound lack of knowledge of the issues involved. Granted, she’s not the only person who has this tendency. > > She hasn’t been savaged by the media. She’s been COVERED by the media, because that’s what she wants. When the media coverage is about mistakes she’s made, or bad decisions she’s made, or actual negative events, that’s not “savaging” her - that’s news. > > She wanted the spotlight. She’s got it, and it’s not always ass-kissing. If she does something stupid, and it gets media coverage, well, that’s the way the news works. She doesn’t get to determine that all media coverage of her is always positive, all the time. > > I already admitted that this was my opinion. I simply cannot see any net positive contribution she’s made to the public political discourse. I can, however, see a large number of negative contributions. Okay, have it your way. Since the thread has been so neatly derailed by you guys, I’m willing to let it die. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/64 "2011-07-16T18:21:51Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > What is up with that 1981 clamshell VHS case looking [movie poster](http://asianconservatives.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Sarah-Palin-The-Undefeated.jpg)? That’s one hell of an attempt at cornering the “ironic hipster” poster market. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/65 "2011-07-16T18:38:29Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Okay, have it your way. Since the thread has been so neatly derailed by you guys, I’m willing to let it die. I apologize. I responded before I read through to the rest of the posts and saw your request. I’ll stop the hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/66 "2011-07-16T18:52:24Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > I apologize. I responded before I read through to the rest of the posts and saw your request. I’ll stop the hijack. Ah hell: no worries, friend. Our furry companion of nearly 19 years is dying and we’re on a day-to-day emotional roller coaster. It tends to color my responses here these days. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/67 "2011-07-16T21:22:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > “The [del]Uncompleted[/del] Undefeated” is opening in select theaters (but not in Alaska). Anybody planning to see this? If so, please report back. This documentary has Oscar smell all over it. Rotten Tomatoes has given it a perfect score. 0% is perfect, right? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/68 "2011-07-16T23:10:00Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Ah hell: no worries, friend. Our furry companion of nearly 19 years is dying and we’re on a day-to-day emotional roller coaster. It tends to color my responses here these days. /hijack I’m so sorry. That is always a tough situation. /end hijack ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/69 "2011-07-17T02:34:45Z")
Haven’t read the thread, but I don’t know why people wouldn’t go see it. Everybody should go see [Sarah’s movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1668200/). It’s beautiful and melancholy and very very well-done. I saw a sneak preview with the director in attendance. I hope it does very well. It deserves to be seen and make money. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/70 "2011-07-18T15:15:07Z")
Well, the numbers are in. It averaged, about $5,000 per screen, not bad all things considered (enough to place it in between the per-screen averages of “Horrible Bosses” and “The Zookeeper”), but not really blockbuster material either. [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544\_162-20080308-503544.html](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20080308-503544.html) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/71 "2011-07-18T15:21:11Z")
I’ve never figured out why opening weekend revenues are any indication of the popularity (let alone the quality) of a movie. Most people who go on the opening weekend are pretty much taking a shot in the dark. If you wait for the second or third weekend after opening, all the reviews will have come out, along with the word-of-mouth (which tends to be more trustworthy than the pro reviews). I’d say that third-weekend revenues are a more accurate indicator, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/72 "2011-07-18T16:39:48Z")
That depends on where the popularity is coming from. The second or third weekend might give a better indication of the movie’s quality, but the opening weekend will give a better indication of the stars’ popularity. And the latter effect is by far the dominant one here: Nobody’s going to go see this movie unless they’re already a fan of Sarah Palin, and anyone who’s a fan of Palin is probably inclined to like it. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/73 "2011-07-18T16:45:23Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Nobody’s going to go see this movie unless they’re already a fan of Sarah Palin… Another shining example of our Eighth Amendment protections. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/74 "2011-07-18T17:01:27Z")
For what’s its worth, on rottentomatoes the Paliography has 644 user reviews, and a 0% fresh rating. Still 0% from critics, too. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/75 "2011-07-27T21:29:17Z")
Apparently the movie is a flop: [Sarah Palin doc The Undefeated will try its luck on TV](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/07/sarah-palin-undefeated-on-demand-directv.html) [Sarah Palin Doc Undefeated Bottoms Out at $24,000; Distributor Opts for Pay Per View](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/idUS11162878920110724?feedType=RSS&virtualBrandChannel=10282) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/76 "2011-07-27T21:48:11Z")
> [@a35362](#): > > Apparently the movie is a flop: > > [Sarah Palin doc The Undefeated will try its luck on TV](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/07/sarah-palin-undefeated-on-demand-directv.html) > > [Sarah Palin Doc Undefeated Bottoms Out at $24,000; Distributor Opts for Pay Per View](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/idUS11162878920110724?feedType=RSS&virtualBrandChannel=10282) What are you talking about??? The film, like Sarah Palin, is an unqualified success! The producer’s describe it as “highly sought after” and go on about the “strong audience reaction” and how they’ve “been inundated with requests from people wanting the film to be made available in their market”. Clearly, millions of people are clamoring to see this awesome movie! ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/77 "2011-08-09T05:52:14Z")
It’s a huge success. Two weeks ago it was playing on three screens. Last week it disappeared, playing on no screens. It’s become one of the greatest stealth movies of all time. You want to see it but you can’t. [http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/](http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/) But wait! if you call right now we will send you two DVD’s for the price of one. Just pay separate shipping and handling. [http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3215&p=s.htm](http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3215&p=s.htm) Everybody was just waiting for it to come out on DVD and PPV. We love you, Sarah! ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760/78 "2011-09-30T03:04:25Z")
Here’s the flip side: a decidedly unauthorized documentary about Sarah Palin: _Sarah Palin: You Betcha!_ Trailer [here](http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi490839065/). I think it’s supposed to be opening in New York and L.A. tomorrow (Sep. 30th). Somebody go check it out and let us know what you think. Sounds fun! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-whos-going-to-see-sarahs-movie/588760.md?page=3)