# So, why does Greg Kelly's accuser get to remain anonymous?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [January 28, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012 "2012-01-28T19:44:27Z")
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### Author: ![RogerDalien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de0a6/32.png) [@RogerDalien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogerDalien)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/1 "2012-01-28T19:44:27Z")

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This person:

1. Cheated on her current Boyfriend

2. Got pregnant

3. Had an abortion

4. Falsely accuses Greg Kelly of rape.  
His name is being dragged through the dirt, she gets to remain anonymous. She is apparently the daughter of a prominent lawyer.

This is wrong.

I hope someone finds out who she is leaks the information.

The law provides no recourse for this injustice but there are other ways.

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/2 "2012-01-28T19:49:15Z")

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One of the biggest reasons anonymity is granted is because assholes think that the first three items on your list are relevant.

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### Author: ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/3 "2012-01-28T19:56:47Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> One of the biggest reasons anonymity is granted is because assholes think that the first three items on your list are relevant.

This. Even prostitutes get raped. It’s still a crime.

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### Author: ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/4 "2012-01-28T19:59:17Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> One of the biggest reasons anonymity is granted is because assholes think that the first three items on your list are relevant.

I agree with you on the second half of that statement. But it is still unfair. If the alleged victim’s name is kept secret, than so should the alleged perpetrator’s name. This is especially highlighted in this case because the only evidence of rape is a claim by the alleged victim.

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/5 "2012-01-28T20:02:02Z")

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I’d have no objection to that. There’s really no reason for an accusation of rape to be news, anyway.

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### Author: ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/6 "2012-01-28T20:13:55Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> One of the biggest reasons anonymity is granted is because assholes think that the first three items on your list are relevant.

I don’t get this. Did I miss a meme somewhere?

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### Author: ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/7 "2012-01-28T20:32:03Z")

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In a court of law, someone is innocent until proven guilty. In rape cases, it’s usually the accuser that is ‘lying’ right off the bat - in the eyes of the public and (too often) the police force and friends and family. You protect their name so that they don’t become victim to death threats, bad journalism, harassment, etc.

Also, it’s a privacy issue. If someone assraped me, I’d be less likely to report it to the police if I knew it would be all over the news that I did.

Common sense. We also protect whistleblowers and reporters of child abuse.

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/8 "2012-01-28T20:38:57Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> I don’t get this. Did I miss a meme somewhere?

Whether a woman has ever cheated on her boyfriend, been pregnant, or had an abortion is irrelevant to whether or not she may have been raped.

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### Author: ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/9 "2012-01-28T20:41:56Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Whether a woman has ever cheated on her boyfriend, been pregnant, or had an abortion is irrelevant to whether or not she may have been raped.

Indeed.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/10 "2012-01-28T20:42:59Z")

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Link? Who is Greg Kelly?

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### Author: ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/11 "2012-01-28T20:44:55Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> In a court of law, someone is innocent until proven guilty. In rape cases, it’s usually the accuser that is ‘lying’ right off the bat - in the eyes of the public and (too often) the police force and friends and family. You protect their name so that they don’t become victim to death threats, bad journalism, harassment, etc.
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> Also, it’s a privacy issue. If someone assraped me, I’d be less likely to report it to the police if I knew it would be all over the news that I did.
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> Common sense. We also protect whistleblowers and reporters of child abuse.

Common sense says that the identity of an innocent person would be protected, not the identify of the accuser.

BTW: Does anyone know if there is a legal basis for this? I understood this practice was established by the press to protect the reputations of alleged rape victims. The news accounts indicate the media know exactly who this alleged victim is.

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### Author: ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/12 "2012-01-28T20:47:59Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Common sense says that the identity of an innocent person would be protected, not the identify of the accuser.

So the accuser has to be proven innocent first before we protect his/her privacy? How backwards is that?

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### Author: ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/13 "2012-01-28T20:56:06Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Link? Who is Greg Kelly?

Give this a go:

Put **Greg Kelly** into Google, and see what the first page gives you. All the news links, and the first 6 regular links all relate to this particular case.

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### Author: ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/14 "2012-01-28T20:58:47Z")

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Why does this _thing_ continue to be fed? Since joining this board in September, he has started such misogynistic threads as:

[Having sex with fat ugly women, it’s easy but harmful…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=636656)

[Should Kim Kardashian be stoned for mocking the institution of marriage and also for…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633364)

[Her face grosses me out, how do I block her? (Computer help)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=632668)

[Does Madonna (the singer) look more and more like an old whore?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=631932)  
Not enough rolleyes on all the message boards of the world.

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### Author: ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/15 "2012-01-28T21:02:49Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> [Does Madonna (the singer) look more and more like an old whore?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=631932)

I remembered that abortion of a thread, but didn’t realize that it was the same OP. He definitely has a certain _je ne sais quoi_ when it comes to talking about women.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/16 "2012-01-28T21:03:11Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Give this a go:
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> Put **Greg Kelly** into Google, and see what the first page gives you. All the news links, and the first 6 regular links all relate to this particular case.

I thought the expectation for polite discourse on the SDMB was to link to obscure topics when starting a discussion.

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/17 "2012-01-28T21:09:11Z")

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The OP isn’t especially interested in polite discourse.

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### Author: ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/18 "2012-01-28T21:18:46Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I thought the expectation for polite discourse on the SDMB was to link to obscure topics when starting a discussion.

It is, and the OP should have provided a link.

But that doesn’t change the fact that it would have actually required _less_ effort for you to look on Google than to ask the question here.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/19 "2012-01-28T21:27:39Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> It is, and the OP should have provided a link.
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> But that doesn’t change the fact that it would have actually required _less_ effort for you to look on Google than to ask the question here.

True, and I did both. Just in the wrong order

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### Author: ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-does-greg-kellys-accuser-get-to-remain-anonymous/611012/20 "2012-01-28T21:35:31Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> So the accuser has to be proven innocent first before we protect his/her privacy? How backwards is that?

No, both of them should be protected, or no one.

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