# So, why haven't Republicans got rid of Trump?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 26, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885 "2017-10-26T12:53:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/41 "2017-10-27T00:46:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> James Madison believed that impeachment was a remedy for ‘incapacity, negligence, or perfidy’.

Well, hell, let’s get them started in the morning.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/42 "2017-10-27T00:46:58Z")

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The Republicans in Congress have no fundamental objection to Donald Trump. They all want the same things. They just wish he could act like a normie for five consecutive minutes.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/43 "2017-10-27T00:54:59Z")

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Perhaps we could let Puerto Ricans vote.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/44 "2017-10-27T01:29:41Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Why don’t the Republicans in Congress make up a bogus charge and impeach Trump

it’s been on the table at least since Clinton. They basically “gotcha’d” him with what? Lying under oath in response to questions about a consensual sex act that Congress had no business asking about in the first place? Let’s face it, that was all smoke and mirrors for “we didn’t like him.”

Trump at least they could get for the constant lying, obstruction of justice, any number of contractual issues, violation of the oath of office to uphold the Constitution, blatant disregard for American lives, expressed support for numerous groups whose intent is to overthrow the US government, any number of threats to use Presidential power for illegitimate purposes, the dismantling of the Government, the “ruling by executive order” they were always threatening to impeach Obama for, violation of international treaties, or just being a jerkwad. Congress gets to decide. The real problem is that he’s incredibly damaging to both his own party and American interests.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/45 "2017-10-27T01:58:16Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> The Republicans in Congress have no fundamental objection to Donald Trump. They all want the same things. They just wish he could act like a normie for five consecutive minutes.

This.

As I quoted above in post #28

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> …“We have a leader who has a personality disorder,” said former Senator Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, “but he’s done what he actually told the people he was going to do, and they’re not going to abandon him.”…

The Republicans are NEVER going to turn against Trump. NEVER. There’s nothing he can do that will make them. Period.

And if the Democrats don’t get their shit together, he’s going to get reelected in 2020. It’s not looking good.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/46 "2017-10-27T02:09:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The Republicans are NEVER going to turn against Trump. NEVER. There’s nothing he can do that will make them. Period.

The minute it looks like opposing Trump will be better for GOP re-elections than not opposing him, they’ll turn against him. Wait and see.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/47 "2017-10-27T02:21:46Z")

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> [@TimeWinder](#):
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> The minute it looks like opposing Trump will be better for GOP re-elections than not opposing him, they’ll turn against him. Wait and see.

I think this is true. I hope and pray it is true. Please-- anyone!-- describe for me what circumstances would have to be in place for this to happen?

Clearly, Trump’s personality, personal “style,” lack of education, boorish manner, disregard for common courtesy-- none of these things matter to his voters. And frankly, these things don’t matter to his supporters in Congress either. So there is no personal level that Trump can descend to that will turn his voters and his supporters in Congress against him, right? I think we’ve seen enough in the last 10 months to make that a given.

So what would have to happen to make “opposing Trump [look] better for GOP re-elections than not opposing him”?

Seriously. Not a rhetorical question. Anyone?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/48 "2017-10-27T03:34:28Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I think this is true. I hope and pray it is true. Please-- anyone!-- describe for me what circumstances would have to be in place for this to happen?
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> Clearly, Trump’s personality, personal “style,” lack of education, boorish manner, disregard for common courtesy-- none of these things matter to his voters. And frankly, these things don’t matter to his supporters in Congress either. So there is no personal level that Trump can descend to that will turn his voters and his supporters in Congress against him, right? I think we’ve seen enough in the last 10 months to make that a given.
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> So what would have to happen to make “opposing Trump [look] better for GOP re-elections than not opposing him”?
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> Seriously. Not a rhetorical question. Anyone?

NM.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/49 "2017-10-27T03:41:19Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> NM.

No fair.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/50 "2017-10-27T03:50:18Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> So why haven’t they done it?

Perhaps they haven’t done it yet because they have more respect for the electoral process than the Left does.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/51 "2017-10-27T04:08:31Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Perhaps they haven’t done it yet because they have more respect for the electoral process than the Left does.

They certainly have no respect for the country, and only want to use the provision in the Constitution when it’s against the Left.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/52 "2017-10-27T04:10:03Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> No fair.

I miss-read something, it was not good. My response was essentially “I love red wine.”

ETA: Which I do, don’t get me wrong.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/53 "2017-10-27T04:17:22Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> So what would have to happen to make “opposing Trump [look] better for GOP re-elections than not opposing him”?
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> Seriously. Not a rhetorical question. Anyone?

Presumably if they felt their electoral prospects would be better if they opposed him rather than supported him, they would do that.

The whole Jeff Flake episode has probably done significant damage to that idea.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/54 "2017-10-27T04:29:30Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Perhaps they haven’t done it yet because they have more respect for the electoral process than the Left does.

How do you say that in Russian?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/55 "2017-10-27T04:32:51Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> How do you say that in Russian?

I don’t know. Perhaps Hillary could hire someone to write a dossier about it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/56 "2017-10-27T05:04:39Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I miss-read something, it was not good. My response was essentially “I love red wine.”
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> ETA: Which I do, don’t get me wrong.

It could indeed be that getting drunk and staying drunk is the answer.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/57 "2017-10-27T12:03:48Z")

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Let’s see what happens when they get their tax cuts for the rich out of the way. Right now they have a marriage of convenience, the only thing they really want are those tax cuts and once they have them, they have little that binds them together. Sort of like a married couple staying together for the children and the children grow up and move out.

My guess is that once the tax cuts are done (and let’s not dignify it with the word “reform”), the Republican donor class will be happy and the Republicans in Congress will be more secure, they can tell Bannon to go suck eggs and Dumb Donald can just cut paper dolls and tweet all day for all they care.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/58 "2017-10-27T12:11:24Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Perhaps they haven’t done it yet because they have more respect for the electoral process than the Left does.

I’m quite curious to know what facts you considered in reaching that conclusion.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/59 "2017-10-27T12:34:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> And if the Democrats don’t get their shit together, he’s going to get reelected in 2020. It’s not looking good.

How do they get their shit together against blatant lies?

What disturbs me is that enough of the population likes this sexist, racist liar to elect him.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-havent-republicans-got-rid-of-trump/799885/60 "2017-10-27T13:07:29Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I don’t know. Perhaps Hillary could hire someone to write a dossier about it.

Lock her up! Lock her up! [grunt, grunt]

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