# So....will playing "Dixie" be deemed racist?

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**Created:** [August 17, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921 "2017-08-17T23:38:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/101 "2017-08-20T23:11:10Z")

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No, these soldiers died fighting _against_ the United States government, and a core principle of it’s constitution, to defend their right to OWN other human beings. Their way of life was being lost because they were being divested of their large inventory of humans as property.

Everything else, EVERYTHING else is revisionism, straight up.

I challenge you to uncover a single dedication speech, from the enshrinement of one of these statues, that DOESN’T invoke, first and foremost, Christianity and the Bible as endorsing the white man having dominion over the black man.

None of this revisionist claptrap. Read it for yourself. It’s straight up glorification of racism, bigotry and hate.

Just because you don’t know the actual history, of what was said that day, you shouldn’t assume others don’t and will just swallow whatever spin you try to put on it. They were so proud of their hateful rhetoric, delivered to cheering crowds, they published it in papers and saved it for posterity.

Lucky us. The words they actually spoke clearly show what _their_ intent was, YOUR spin notwithstanding.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/102 "2017-08-20T23:48:47Z")

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actually if the history channel is correct according to the history minute which was shown in-between shows and had sam waterson from law and order telling the story

Dixie was written almost 10-20 years before the civil war by a northerner that had never been there for a play that became popular and who later disowned the song by saying he wished never wrote the goddamed thing …

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/103 "2017-08-23T06:35:32Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Hmm. Are you capable of seeing how I think and understanding why I think that way?

Yes I can

The difference I am not trying to tell you how to think.  
You are are saying anybody who doesn’t think the same way you do is bigotted or racist.

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/104 "2017-08-23T06:48:29Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Yes, they could, but those are all based entirely upon ignorance or selfishness. Either not knowing or not caring that the 50’s were a pretty shitty time for quite a number of American citizens, but only remembering their own fond memories of the era.

So what you are saying is nobody is allowed to have fond memories unless everybody has fond memories?

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/105 "2017-08-23T08:09:03Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> My dog’s name is Dixie.

Obviously you should change the name.

And throw out any Dixie cups you have too.

And don’t even think about watching _Happy Days_

Just to be safe you probably shouldn’t watch _Laverne and Shirley_ either.

I just don’t know how my friend is going to take it when I tell him he has to destroy his '57 Chevy. ☹  
Although he is black, so maybe that makes it okay? 😕

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/106 "2017-08-23T13:10:33Z")

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> [@Sahirrnee](#):
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> It is incredibly narrow minded to judge the motives of other people through your (your collectively) narrow world view.
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> There are those of us who ARE capable of seeing how other people think and uderstanding why they think that way.

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Hmm. Are you capable of seeing how I think and understanding why I think that way?

> [@Sahirrnee](#):
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> Yes I can
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> The difference I am not trying to tell you how to think.  
> You are are saying anybody who doesn’t think the same way you do is bigotted or racist.

Well, I feel understood! You’re good at this!

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/107 "2017-08-23T14:16:42Z")

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> [@Sahirrnee](#):
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> So what you are saying is nobody is allowed to have fond memories unless everybody has fond memories?

No, that is not what I am saying at all.

I am saying that your fond memories do not override the not so fond memories of others.

I am sure that Daniel Holtzclaw has fond memories of the women that he raped. Do you seriously fault the women that he raped for not wanting to go through that experience again?

Just because the oppressor enjoys it, doesn’t mean that the oppressed does.

If your fond memories are of running in the sun and playing in the water hole, that’s fine. If your fond memories are running in the sun, and playing in the water hole, and they are fond because they do not contain any minorities in those memories, then that’s not quite so fine.

If your fond memory is of going to a white school, and you are nostalgic for the times when you could go to a white only school, or eat your lunch without any minorities about, then those fond memories of your are horrors for others.

This is like complaining that just because a rape victim doesn’t have fond memories of being raped, then the rapist isn’t allowed to have fond memories of it.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/108 "2017-08-23T16:36:49Z")

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Every person that fought for the confederacy was a traitor. Every one. Traitors don’t get statues.  
The confederacy lost. We don’t give trophies for second place.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/109 "2017-08-24T15:53:49Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Every person that fought for the confederacy was a traitor. Every one. Traitors don’t get statues.  
> The confederacy lost. We don’t give trophies for second place.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-will-playing-dixie-be-deemed-racist/793921/110 "2017-08-24T22:29:46Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Every person that fought for the confederacy was a traitor. Every one. Traitors don’t get statues.  
> The confederacy lost. We don’t give trophies for second place.

I’ve said it before…its a good GD thing the South blatantly said they were fighting for slavery.

Otherwise…something something Vietnam memorial something William Wallace something Alamo…

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