# So You Think You Can Dance -- SYTYCD -- Fall 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 7, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165 "2009-09-07T15:34:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/241 "2009-12-17T17:31:28Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Actually, it’s not Louis Vuitton, it’s [Louboutin](http://www.christianlouboutin.com/) – and their shoes are more like a grand a pop. I don’t get it. They’re overpriced f-me pumps. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/242 "2009-12-17T18:00:25Z")
I liked the winner. He reminded me of Joshua a few seasons back. And, the whole America’s favorite dancer thing…never was about who’s better. I mean, back in season two, Benji beat…Travis Wall, the choreographer now on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/243 "2009-12-17T19:30:00Z")
> [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](#): > > I liked the winner. He reminded me of Joshua a few seasons back. > > And, the whole America’s favorite dancer thing…never was about who’s better. I mean, back in season two, Benji beat…Travis Wall, the choreographer now on the show. Well, being a great choreographer is not neccessarily correlated with being a great dance. But your point is still correct. I am just astonished that Russel never had formal dance training. I agree with much of the sentiment, Jakob, a fabuous technician, a wonderful dancer who still seemed to lack some connection. I may be criticized for saying this, but I think he suffers from not being as masculine as some of the other dancers. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/244 "2009-12-17T19:33:29Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I am just astonished that Russel never had formal dance training. I agree with much of the sentiment, Jakob, a fabuous technician, a wonderful dancer who still seemed to lack some connection. I may be criticized for saying this, but I think he suffers from not being as masculine as some of the other dancers. At least he’s never struggled with a lift, unlike Evan, last season. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/245 "2009-12-17T19:42:03Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > At least he’s never struggled with a lift, unlike Evan, last season. Sure, I never said he couldn’t do the lifts. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/246 "2009-12-17T19:47:38Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Actually, it’s not Louis Vuitton, it’s [Louboutin](http://www.christianlouboutin.com/) – and their shoes are more like a grand a pop. For selling ridiculously expensive shoes, they sure have one clusterfuck of a website. Wow. That sure was a live show! Wasn’t it kind of fun to see the mic problems with Cat? Having four musical (or “musical,” as the case may be) was overbloated and only tangentially related to the show in the first place. I really didn’t get the idea, there. I’m pretty pleased with the results. I agree that Jakob was the best dancer, but I was more emotionally invested in Russell and Kathryn. I think winning might be of more use to Russell than Jakob. ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/247 "2009-12-18T14:59:54Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Well, being a great choreographer is not neccessarily correlated with being a great dance. But your point is still correct. > > \*\*I am just astonished that Russel never had formal dance training. \*\* I agree with much of the sentiment, Jakob, a fabuous technician, a wonderful dancer who still seemed to lack some connection. I may be criticized for saying this, but I think he suffers from not being as masculine as some of the other dancers. Is this true? I could have sworn during one of the “personal” moments Russel’s Mom said he was either in school or dance class all the time. ---
**Author:** ![light\_strand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@light\_strand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/light_strand)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/248 "2009-12-18T16:28:24Z")
> [@Lanzy](#): > > Is this true? I could have sworn during one of the “personal” moments Russel’s Mom said he was either in school or dance class all the time. Russell does indeed have formal training. From an interview: > [@](#): > > Once you got to Vegas, you showed that you had skills in so many different areas. Had you taken classes in ballroom and contemporary prior to making the show? > > Oh yea. Definitely. I feel like, even being a street dancer, no matter where you’re from, or how rough it is, you should always study other genres of dance so you can be versatile, because you never know what’s going to be thrown at you. But that all comes with your love for dance in general. So yea, I took classes. I know enough to basically execute a good contemporary piece, I guess. Would I be the best in my ballet class? No. [http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/12/17/sytycd-winner-russell-talks-about-his-victory/](http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/12/17/sytycd-winner-russell-talks-about-his-victory/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165.md?page=12)