# So You Think You Can Dance -- SYTYCD -- Fall 2009

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 7, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165 "2009-09-07T15:34:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/21 "2009-09-18T09:19:59Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> And apparently someone took the judges aside last season after the same-sex ballroom pair and explained a few things to them – much different reaction this season, no?

Yes. That was appreciated. However, go back and watch Nigel’s body language – it’s a text book example of contempt.  
I thought this was an annoying episode. Maybe I was in a bad mood, but there were too many goofballs and too few actually interesting dancers. And can a person with challenges, difficulties or whatever do an audition without having the judges break out in tears or talk condescendingly about courage and emotion? I’m sure even deaf dancers, unusual as they are, like to be treated like normal people every once in a while.

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**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/22 "2009-09-18T14:13:55Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> I loved the bit with the blond girl who they initially liked, and seemed ready to move to choreography. Nigel said something like “very nice form. But I have to ask, have you ever been abducted by aliens?” and the girl replied, with a look that was meant to separate her from all the other weirdos that preceded her, “only once”.
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> I think the deaf girl must have had a hell of a time reading Mary’s lips, which are so botoxed into submission they barely move. I think she just nodded politely until she saw Mary getting choked up and just assumed she was saying someting kind.

On that first point, I think they just need to revive the alien impregnating routine from last season and she’ll be right at home!

On the second point, I was totally thinking that when I saw that. I could tell that Nigel was making a point of being exaggerated with his lip movements and was trying to help her. Mary… she’s like a freaking ventriloquist. He lips don’t effing move except to scream!

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/23 "2009-09-24T13:26:45Z")

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The guy in the plaid pants and bow tie is amazing – I hope we see him again.

And Nigel needs to stop trying to banter with the auditioners, because it’s just fucking painful. His comments to the super tall hoofer? Dumb, obvious, unoriginal, and not even a tiny bit funny.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/24 "2009-09-24T13:31:45Z")

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Man, Tice annoys me, almost as much as Mia Michaels and that one black judge who needs to put down the thesaurus.

Overall, a good show last night. I thought plaid guy was good, but I could see how his personality could get annoying really quick.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/25 "2009-09-24T13:43:37Z")

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I suspect if he made it into the top 20 he’d tone it way down – I think he’s a serious dancer and not just a persona.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/26 "2009-09-24T16:18:39Z")

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That was the nice thing last night–several contestants were played up so we were expecting some kind of freak show novelty (plaid guy, tall guy), but they really did deliver with some surprising chops. I thought Nigel’s “joke” to the Krumper was uncalled for, but the auditions must be grueling so I’m willing to sympathize a little when they have short fuses. I wasn’t that impressed with the married couple, but overall the auditions have me quite excited about what the season has in store.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/27 "2009-09-24T16:38:54Z")

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I was thinking last night, has a non-contemporary dancer ever won?

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/28 "2009-09-24T23:54:10Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I was thinking last night, has a non-contemporary dancer ever won?

Yes. Check out the [wikipedia chart](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_You_Think_You_Can_Dance_(U.S._TV_series)).

Joshua was hip hop. Benji was latin/swing. I missed the first season, so I can’t vouch for whether Nick’s “lyrical/jazz” was not just code for contemporary.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/29 "2009-09-25T00:06:46Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> And Nigel needs to stop trying to banter with the auditioners, because it’s just fucking painful. His comments to the super tall hoofer? Dumb, obvious, unoriginal, and not even a tiny bit funny.

He was on good behavior. Usually it’s “It must be cold on stage because your high beams are on. By that I mean your nipples are poking through your leotard. I’m pointing this out because I don’t want people to think I’m gay”.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/30 "2009-09-25T12:32:29Z")

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Heh. He is a sad case, isn’t he?

However, he’s pretty much single-handedly responsible for creating this, my favorite show on TV, so I guess I’ll just have to ignore him.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/31 "2009-09-29T12:54:28Z")

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A heads-up for those watching the audition shows – there’s a bonus episode tonight (9 Eastern), plus the regular show tomorrow at 8 Eastern.

These are the last two audition shows – Las Vegas starts next week.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/32 "2009-09-30T12:32:54Z")

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I wanted to smack the “my solo is dope” dude. He had a condescending, eye-rolly attitude and his sweater kept distracting me during his solo. Which wasn’t the least bit dope, by the way.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/33 "2009-09-30T13:24:27Z")

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Nothing too interesting last night, other than the one-handed girl, yikes. I switched over to DWTS for the last ten minutes – did she make it to Vegas?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/34 "2009-09-30T14:11:20Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Nothing too interesting last night, other than the one-handed girl, yikes. I switched over to DWTS for the last ten minutes – did she make it to Vegas?

No, she couldn’t handle the (salsa-based) choreography. She was on the verge of tears at the news, but swore she’d take more latin dance lessons and try again.

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**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/35 "2009-09-30T15:12:33Z")

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Yup, she said something about joining a salsa club.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Dr.Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Love)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/36 "2009-09-30T16:25:31Z")

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She was destined to not make it, the moment Mary called her “inspiring” (or “an inspiration”, or whatever). As far as I can remember, no “inspiring” person has ever made it to Vegas.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/37 "2009-09-30T16:53:52Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> I feel a little bad for Jeanine, who has the satisfaction of being America’s Favorite Dancer for a whole…3 months? Talk about getting pushed out of the limelight in a hurry…

I wouldn’t worry about that too much. The top ten dancers go on tour at the end of each season. Ultimately the point isn’t to become some world-famous celebrity dancer. It’s to break into a career in professional dance and choreography.  
I’ll start watching the show once they pick the final contestants for the season. I have no interest in watching the freakshow at the audition.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/38 "2009-09-30T17:13:51Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> No, she couldn’t handle the (salsa-based) choreography. She was on the verge of tears at the news, but swore she’d take more latin dance lessons and try again.

Did you see her partner during the choreography? He reached out to grab her non-hand, whipped his hand back, they both missed a step.

I felt bad for both of them.

I’m already tired of the docudramas. Dude who was a crack baby: “There’s nothing here for me” said right after comments from the obviously ailing aunt who raised him. I get what he was saying, it’s a chance he may not have again (or until next season!), but she’s not dead yet.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/39 "2009-10-01T13:31:21Z")

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From my NY hometown newspaper [So You Think We Wanna See Your Coochie.](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/09/30/2009-09-30_so_you_think_you_can_dance_contestant_flashes_national_tv_audience.html)

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-you-think-you-can-dance-sytycd-fall-2009/509165/40 "2009-10-01T15:41:54Z")

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I don’t see how that’s possible, **Biggirl**. I read the article and watched the uncensored video clip on Perez Hilton’s site, and I still don’t understand how it’s possible that a _dancer_ in a short _skirt_ was no wear underwear. Their movements are always, uh, crotch revealing; we see lots and lots of underwear (well, or dance uniforms that mimic the shape of underwear). She _had_ to be wearing underwear and it moved…right?

I want to see her entire routine to try and make more sense of that.

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