# SoCal Dopers- Freeway interchanges help needed **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 15, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501 "2007-11-15T05:51:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/1 "2007-11-15T05:51:57Z")
Can any of SoCal Dopers give me some tips for making the interchange from the 10E to the 110S going to San Pedro?? I am planning on heading down to San Pedro this Friday from Vegas. I normally take a completely ridiculous route to get there the 15 S to the 10 W to the 710 S and across to S.P. from Long Beach. It’s takes me longer to go to than come home by the 110 N to the 10 E to the 15 N. I have tried to make the 10 W to the 110 S interchange however, my problem being, is that the few times I have tried I cannot seem to make the 10 W to the 110 S interchange heading to San Pedro. Each time I have tried, I end up getting lost (wrong lanes and all). Once I ended up near a huge Buddhist temple and car crusher lots… Help :o ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/2 "2007-11-15T06:26:11Z")
no, don’t ask me. I once came home to Union Station and inadvertently drove home to West L.A. via East L.A. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/3 "2007-11-15T06:27:58Z")
[QUOTE=LVgeogeek] Can any of SoCal Dopers give me some tips for making the interchange from the 10E to the 110S going to San Pedro?? [/QUOTE] I have nothing to tell you except that that particular interchange is the worst designed in the history of civil engineering [[cite](http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.038276,-118.273938&spn=0.007237,0.014505&t=h&z=16&om=1)]. I am in that area once a week and I just want to pull the fingernails off of whoever is responsible for it. I think the 10E was designed by a idiot savant. Except his particular area of ability wasn’t in traffic. Sorry I know that was useless. ---
**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/4 "2007-11-15T06:47:11Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Bruin] I have nothing to tell you except that that particular interchange is the worst designed in the history of civil engineering [[cite](http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.038276,-118.273938&spn=0.007237,0.014505&t=h&z=16&om=1)]. I am in that area once a week and I just want to pull the fingernails off of whoever is responsible for it. I think the 10E was designed by a idiot savant. Except his particular area of ability wasn’t in traffic. Sorry I know that was useless. [/QUOTE] No, it actually makes me feel better that it’s not just me then, that it is just a bad design 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/5 "2007-11-15T07:05:31Z")
That Google maps image is cool. There are buildings inside the interchange loops. It must suck to work/live there. ---
**Author:** ![Dumbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dumbguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dumbguy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/6 "2007-11-15T07:13:34Z")
I wouldn’t call your route ridiculous. It’s probably a little longer, but not by much. Plus it gets you off the 10 before you get to downtown, which can be a mess at times. You could also take the 710 South to the 91, and take that West to the 110. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/7 "2007-11-15T07:34:31Z")
Have you considered skipping the 10/110 altogether? A few miles before the 110 interchange, exit I-10W to US- 101N, and 1-2 miles later, exit to I-110S. Only a little out of the way, and both junctions are relatively straightforward. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/8 "2007-11-15T10:15:34Z")
Here’s a route that bypasses downtown L.A. completely: I-15 south to I-210 west I-210 west to I-605 south I-605 south to I-105 west\* I-105 west to I-110 south - you can also take SR91 west to I-110, but the 91/110/405 interchange gets a little hairy. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/9 "2007-11-15T17:36:23Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Bruin] I have nothing to tell you except that that particular interchange is the worst designed in the history of civil engineering. I am in that area once a week and I just want to pull the fingernails off of whoever is responsible for it. I think the 10E was designed by a idiot savant. Except his particular area of ability wasn’t in traffic. [/QUOTE] That actually doesn’t look too bad, and from above, pretty straight-forward compared to some of the interchanges up here. There’s a reason they call the 24/13/580/80/880/980 interchange and Bay Bridge approach **The Maze**! ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/10 "2007-11-15T18:00:11Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Here’s a route that bypasses downtown L.A. completely: I-15 south to I-210 west I-210 west to I-605 south I-605 south to I-105 west\* I-105 west to I-110 south [/QUOTE] This is your winner. There’s absolutely no reason for you to go through downtown LA. There are few, if any, times of day where that would be desirable from a traffic standpoint, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/11 "2007-11-15T18:02:39Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Bruin] I have nothing to tell you except that that particular interchange is the worst designed in the history of civil engineering [[cite](http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.038276,-118.273938&spn=0.007237,0.014505&t=h&z=16&om=1)]. I am in that area once a week and I just want to pull the fingernails off of whoever is responsible for it. I think the 10E was designed by a idiot savant. Except his particular area of ability wasn’t in traffic. [/QUOTE] These kind of comments always remind me of this comic: [xkcd: Long Light](http://xkcd.com/277/) ---
**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/12 "2007-11-15T19:43:07Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Here’s a route that bypasses downtown L.A. completely: I-15 south to I-210 west I-210 west to I-605 south I-605 south to I-105 west\* I-105 west to I-110 south - you can also take SR91 west to I-110, but the 91/110/405 interchange gets a little hairy. [/QUOTE] I will give this route a try on Friday. Looking at the freeway map I have, it shows if I get lost I could end up in Compton or Inglewood [shudder]. Hopefully the signs are obvious. 🙂 I always thought the freeways in Las Vegas were bad, but the L.A. freeways make me crazy. Gah, it was so much easier when my sis lived in Oceanside! [QUOTE=Jayrot] These kind of comments always remind me of this comic: [xkcd: Long Light](http://xkcd.com/277/) [/QUOTE] ha ha ha I love that xkcd guy 😃 on Edit… Thanks for all your help and suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/13 "2007-11-15T19:57:20Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Here’s a route that bypasses downtown L.A. completely: I-15 south to I-210 west I-210 west to I-605 south I-605 south to I-105 west\* I-105 west to I-110 south - you can also take SR91 west to I-110, but the 91/110/405 interchange gets a little hairy. [/QUOTE] Yup. Thirded. Wave at me up in the rocky hills as the 15 South crosses the Mojave River in Victorville. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/14 "2007-11-15T22:20:20Z")
[QUOTE=gotpasswords] That actually doesn’t look too bad, and from above, pretty straight-forward compared to some of the interchanges up here. There’s a reason they call the 24/13/580/80/880/980 interchange and Bay Bridge approach **The Maze**! [/QUOTE] It’s not the interchange itself so much as 1. the traffic on it and 2. the inane way in which the 10 is constructed. On the westbound side (I mean 10W in my first post, I was turned around in my brain) that I travel on most frequently, lanes 1 and 2 separate from the rest of the freeway with a divider. Lane 1 opens onto offramps, and lane 2 opens onto the rest of the freeway at regular intervals. The result being you have people from lane 3 trying to make a massive lane change to exit, people in lane 1 either trying to exit, go on their way, or get back onto the rest of the freeway, and the poor hapless dolts in lane 2 getting squished. It’s fucked, I tells ya. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/15 "2007-11-16T00:12:21Z")
[QUOTE=LVgeogeek] I will give this route a try on Friday. Looking at the freeway map I have, it shows if I get lost I could end up in Compton or Inglewood [shudder]. Hopefully the signs are obvious. [/QUOTE] 105 & 110 do cut through some rough neighborhoods, but as long as you stick to the freeways you’ll be fine. The sound walls are built extra high to protect motorists from stray bullets. 😉 Seriously, the south-central areas aren’t that bad, as long as you stick to major streets and only go down there during daylight hours. (Night time’s a different story!!) ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/16 "2007-11-16T00:32:00Z")
Be careful, the 605 south is no cakewalk, especially near the 5. ---
**Author:** ![ctywkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ctywkr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctywkr)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/17 "2007-11-16T03:58:58Z")
[QUOTE=Yeticus Rex] Yup. Thirded. Wave at me up in the rocky hills as the 15 South crosses the Mojave River in Victorville. [/QUOTE] Sorry for the hijack, Go Rabbits! Oh yea, fourthed ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/18 "2007-11-16T18:55:40Z")
[QUOTE=ctywkr] Sorry for the hijack, Go Rabbits! Oh yea, fourthed [/QUOTE] Wow…you’re averaging less than 2 post per year! Don’t reply to this post unless you really really REALLY have to. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/19 "2007-11-17T02:43:25Z")
[QUOTE=Yeticus Rex] Yup. Thirded. Wave at me up in the rocky hills as the 15 South crosses the Mojave River in Victorville. [/QUOTE] Yo Yeti!! I gave a Doper shout out as I passed you around 3 pm! Thanks for the route. I didn’t have any problems except for trying to merge over in ridiculous traffic. Much easier than trying to make the 10/110 interchange or even going the way I normally go through Long Beach. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socal-dopers-freeway-interchanges-help-needed/426501/20 "2007-11-17T04:17:45Z")
[QUOTE=LVgeogeek] Thanks for the route. I didn’t have any problems except for trying to merge over in ridiculous traffic. [/QUOTE] Welcome to Los Angeles! We got a saying 'round here: “If cars are actually _moving_, it ain’t traffic.” 😉 Glad I could be of help.