Soccer: Yellow cards? Red cards? Extra time added? Playing a man short?

Hmmm… this raises another question for me.

Under current Fifa practice it’s the Fourth Official who indicates how much added time will be played at the end of each half - with the illuminated board, and the usual comments from the commentator “The Fourth Official has indicated an additional four mins of stoppage time”.

Does the ref communicate the amount of stoppage time directly to the Fourth Official - via headset, hand-signals, semaphore? - or is one of the Fourth Official’s roles to keep a note of when the clock should be stopped?

Perhaps the ref’s watch is somehow linked to a clock on the touchline that the Fourth Offical looks at?

From the Fifa site:

I must admit I thought substitutions were included in normal play - many managers use tactical substitutions to run down the final seconds of a match.

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Graham Poll - the “Thing from Tring” - did exactly this in his catastrophic showing in the Croatia vs Australia game last week. :slight_smile:

Tim Cahill (I think) had put the ball into the Croatian net on 93 mins, but Poll blew the whistle before the ball crossed the line.

It didn’t affect the overall result and table placings, but was not a popular decision regardless.

I guess the information exchange here goes both ways. If a US-style athlete commits a foul bad enough for him to be sent off, the coach can just bring on someone almost as good as a replacement? Where’s the incentive not to commit “professional fouls”

They used to use this tactic to waste time at the end of games. When the clock passed 90 minutes there would follow sustained loud whistling from the fans of whichever team was ahead, putting pressure on the ref to end the game. Doesn’t happen much now because everybody knows how much additional time there will be, and the refs typically add 30 seconds for each substitution.

First, there’s the drop to a less-talented replacement. In some sports (basketball, sometimes baseball), that’s a pretty major consideration. If someone was sent off in a critical game, you’d probably hear the announcers criticizing him for letting his team down.
Second, there may be additional within-game penalties for an unnecessary or professional foul, such as additional free throws (in basketball), or (in hockey) a five-minute major penalty (instead of the usual two minutes).
Finally, all leagues can and do add regularly add additional sanctions, such as fines or suspensions for future games. I’m not aware of any league ever permanently banning anyone for actions on the field, but I suppose its possible.

Doesn’t this demonstrate the reason that the immediate situation on the pitch is very relevant to the decision of when to blow the whistle?

IIRC, Marty McSorley was suspended indefinitely by the NHL following his attack on Donald Brashear. He was not allowed to apply for reinstatement for a year following the suspension, and I seem to recall that the message from NHL brass was “don’t waste our time applying for reinstatement; you won’t get it.”

FIFA rules actually say that the ref should let the attacking team take their corner kick, free kick, penalty kick, etc. and imply that an attack at the last second should have its fair chance.

The thing is that in baseball, basketball, Am. football, or hockey, not being able to sub in for a player means a GUARANTEED loss. There’s just no way you can play a whole game a man under in any of those sports.

Hockey, however, punishes teams for penalties by making the offending player sit on his ass for two to five minutes depending on the severity of the foul, and his team has to play a man down but can still substitute freely otherwise, until the penalty time expires or the other team scores. This leads to offensive domination most of the time and a lot of good scoring chances, and a good team can score on those opportunities pretty often. (Sorry if you already know this.) In soccer you can play one or two men down just fine, but in any of our sports it’s a death spell.

The incentive not to commit professional fouls is that you don’t get the extra minutes and stats, you get venom spat at you all day long on all the sports stations and every newspaper, you can get suspended/fined, etc.

That was way different, though. That had to be one of the most horrendous fouls in the history of sports.

Second only to Todd Bertuzzi’s sucker punch and tackle to Steve Moore. That was the sickest and ugliest move in the history of sports.

I don’t know, dude, didn’t he endanger/damage Brashear’s vision? I seem to recall a lot more players started wearing eye visors after that. McSorley must’ve felt like Typhoid Mary (not that I’m sorry for him).

Bertuzzi broke three vertebrae in Moore’s neck, stretched a couple of ligaments and gave him a Grade III concussion. Brashear just got the Grade III concussion.

I stand corrected, then. I don’t remember the Bertuzzi one that well, honestly. Did he get in a load of trouble for it?