# Social Darwinism - the only logical explanation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 30, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/social-darwinism-the-only-logical-explanation/569468 "2011-01-30T01:34:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 91
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/social-darwinism-the-only-logical-explanation/569468/91 "2011-02-05T12:11:38Z")
> [@Le Jacquelope](#): > > It’s not bloody likely you make more money than me. I don’t join startups. I retired from the financial industry and from working for someone else, to actually make a successful start-up of my (and my wife’s) own. I manage to get by.😉 But so which of you is bullshit then? The former finance guy startup entrepreneur or the working class people’s champion? Because your claim seems diametrically opposed to your political position. What you made your money, started some vanity company with your wife and now you spend your time ranting about the woes of the downtrodden working class as if you are one of them? > [@xtisme](#): > > I thought you said you made your millions/billions/trillions in insurance. 😛 I have to say that if you made your big pile (yuck yuck) in the financial industry then it’s amazing how you did that without even a basic grasp of finance, economics or trade. -XT Maybe he worked for Lehman? > [@Wesley Clark](#): > > Whenever you say anything about economics, business or jobs it is usually a mixture of condescension/arrogance combined with optimism bordering on naivete. I know you have an undergrad degree in engineering… That’s funny. I was about to say the same thing about you (but pessimism instead). I also have a degree in business and significant experience working with distressed companies. I try to base most of what I say on facts & figures, practical advice and sound economic and business theory. > [@Wesley Clark](#): > > …but there generally are not a flood of good paying jobs with benefits and security for engineers, scientists and technology workers. Good jobs exist in those fields but they are becoming fewer and farther between. What are you basing that on? And compared to what? A lot of what you say doesn’t make sense: > [@](#): > > Liberal economics like we preach in the west seem to my amateur eyes to be meeting resistance all over the world. There are negative effects of it (income inequality, plutocracy, environmental degredation, short term thinking). And several of the fastest growing regions are rejecting those negative effects And those regions (China and India) have some of the worst records in inequality, plutocracy, and environmental degredation. You think being poor in the US is tough, try it over there. The only reason they are growing is because they have adopted a more liberal western economic approach. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/social-darwinism-the-only-logical-explanation/569468)._