# Socialist(Community) entitlements vs Private Sector

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialist-community-entitlements-vs-private-sector/526785>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 28, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialist-community-entitlements-vs-private-sector/526785 "2010-01-28T17:20:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialist-community-entitlements-vs-private-sector/526785/21 "2010-01-30T19:01:32Z")

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An item entirely overlooked so far in this discussion is that we need the government to provide a fair, honest and impartial judicial system.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialist-community-entitlements-vs-private-sector/526785/22 "2010-01-30T19:15:20Z")

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Since I have been known to say a little socialism goes a long way, my contributions are all forms of insurance (it turns into a big scam when you pay into insurance for profit and they prevent you from collecting when you need it), education, police, fire, healthcare, roads, taxation and judiciary. I think that’s it.

ETA: Yeah, I think I have to add defense to my list.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialist-community-entitlements-vs-private-sector/526785/23 "2010-01-30T22:15:17Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Such a statement is so absurd that one might think we are being wooshed. Then again, maybe you would prefer your favorite restaurants, bars, coffee shops and other privately owned small businesses be replaced by government-run cafeterias. Some people like a very institutional environment.

Did I say “government”, myself? No, I was responding to the OP, who parenthetically said “or community in general I suppose”. I am in favour of community ownership of all the common weal. That includes business (in fact, my favourite coffee shop and restaurant are both just such places)

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Can you define the limits of personal possessions? Can I own land? Can I own a house? How about 2 houses? How about an Inn or a factory?

No, no, no, no & no.

> [@begbert2](#):
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> Axiomatically, there is no such thing as private ownership of anything that’s not a personal possession. So I guess you’re already set.

By “personal possesions” I mean more strictly “[personal property](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property)” (as opposed to real estate). Moveable property, IOW.

And no, I’m not wooshing anyone. The OP asked what _I_ felt the community \*should \*cover. Not what I thought was realistic or currently attainable, but what I feel is actually _good_ to cover. i.e. morally right.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialist-community-entitlements-vs-private-sector/526785/24 "2010-01-31T01:34:24Z")

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Education, both primary & professional.

Health Care, pretty much _in toto_.

Maybe a Basic Income Guarantee.

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