# Sociopathic "Christian" shits on the Boston bombing interfaith service **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 19, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144 "2013-04-19T16:25:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/41 "2013-04-21T14:42:22Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > There’s a point at which you have to either grant him his position or become an atheist. Either religion is true, or it isn’t. If you really believe in Methodism or Catholicism or Islam, then people who believe and do otherwise are in fact incredibly dangerous, basically tempting you into hell by advocating you cooperate with them. The idea of being a religious person who is tolerant of other religions doesn’t make sense if you really dig into it, it’s just an accepted bromide among people who want to have their cake and eat it too aka the liberal religious. I disagree completely I can be a cultural relativist and still be a member of my religion and believer of my creed It isn’t my fault you can’t wrap your head around that ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/42 "2013-04-21T14:48:13Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > Don’t blaspheme the good name of St. Patrick by associating him with the weak mass-produced lager (a.k.a., pisswater) with emerald-colored food dye that’s called “green beer”. If you have to link St. Pat with a beer, make it Guinness stout (not the Americanized lager) or some other Irish brew. You could try to dye it green but seeing as it’s dark, you’d just be wasting green food coloring. > > And FTR, the patron saint of beer is not St. Patrick but [St. Arnold (a.k.a., Arnulf) of Metz.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnulf_of_Metz#The_Legend_of_the_Beer_Mug) That beats the hell out of the fishes and loaves and ranks right up there with the wedding at Cana. I believe the SDMB has a new patron saint. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/43 "2013-04-21T15:30:49Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > My sense is that, for some really extreme fundamentalist Christians, if you allow any aspect of your life to not be saturated with your religion, you’re doing Christianity wrong. This. _Anything_ not obviously for Him is against Him, no matter how benign. As a matter of fact, the seemingly more innocuous it is only makes that much more insidious. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/44 "2013-04-21T15:46:15Z")
Well, I never heard of the twerp in question and, going by comments posted in this thread, I’m convinced. I’m convinced I’m quite lucky that I’ve never heard of the twerp before now. I’m certainly not reading his inanities. You see, the way I see it, Christian behavior in response to a tragedy like the Boston bombing is to comfort the distressed and provide succor to those in need. I’d think bitching at good people for doing good things doesn’t qualify comfort and succor. So, here’s a query or few for the OP: What drove you to read that stupidity? Why care what that moron has to say? Does that particular cretin actually have any influence? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/45 "2013-04-21T16:33:17Z")
> [@Tequila\_Party](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > My sense is that, for some really extreme fundamentalist Christians, if you allow any aspect of your life to not be saturated with your religion, you’re doing Christianity wrong. > > This. _Anything_ not obviously for Him is against Him, no matter how benign. As a matter of fact, the seemingly more innocuous it is only makes that much more insidious. My favorite(?) example of this attitude was a criticism I read of the “Firebird” segment of Fantasia 2000\*. The writer complained that by not ascribing the landscape’s renewal specifically to Jesus, the filmmakers were seducing the unwary into believing in Nature — the next stop apparently being the toils of Satan. Like **Monty** , I’d never heard of the lifeform who is the subject of this thread; and I’d like to express my appreciation to **pythonzzz** for bringing it to my attention so I can avoid it like the plague. \*For those not familiar with the segment, it involves the devastation wrought by a volcano on a pristine landscape, and its regeneration thanks to the efforts of a “sprite” who is seems to be responsible for its care. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/46 "2013-04-21T18:50:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > My sense is that, for some really extreme fundamentalist Christians, if you allow any aspect of your life to not be saturated with your religion, you’re doing Christianity wrong. And you don’t see the irony in you telling them that they’re doing Christianity wrong. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/47 "2013-04-21T19:02:03Z")
The dude was the chaplain for the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department. I hope they were all Christians marching in Christian lock-step for their Christianism (oops, he doesn’t like those “ism” religions). ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/48 "2013-04-21T19:46:03Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > And you don’t see the irony in you telling them that they’re doing Christianity wrong. No one said they were doing it wrong. You’re so obsessed with supporting these fuckfaces (why?) that you aren’t even reading the posts. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/49 "2013-04-21T19:47:57Z")
I don’t support fundamentalists. I wish they would all drop dead. But I do recognize that they at least have an actual belief system and are usually honest about it. Trying to be a liberal, rational religious person is a losing battle of contradictions, most humorously expressed in the “well, MY reading of the Bible says Jesus was a Democrat so you are a HERETIC” talking point that liberals love to wave around as some sort of masterstroke. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/50 "2013-04-21T19:58:41Z")
They’re “honest” about it? They are the most cherry picking bunch I’ve ever seen. They can’t explain why, though they believe in wholesale eternal biblical literalism, that slavery was once supported, but is now not. They decide which tenets of the old testament to follow, yet will completely disregard admonishments to eschew shellfish, mixing patterns or, for men, not cutting the corners off their beards. They don’t have much of a problem against divorce or any other damn thing they _want_ to do, just stuff they do NOT want anyone else to. If that’s “honest,” I think I’ll pass. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/51 "2013-04-21T20:16:24Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > the “well, MY reading of the Bible says Jesus was a Democrat so you are a HERETIC” talking point that liberals love to wave around as some sort of masterstroke. Do you have some examples? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/52 "2013-04-21T20:18:42Z")
I have a sort of fascination with early Christian history, at least partly born of frustration with finding anything to rely upon as “fact”. Until the Nicene Creed established orthodox Christianity for all time …or about ten minutes, depending… there was no “Christianity”, or more to the point, there were at least fifty. Some adopted the Gospel of Mark as definitive, others Matthew, others Luke. Still another regarded Thomas as the supreme disciple, another Mary Magdalene. With some trepidation, I encourage the curious to the works of Pagel, Armstrong and Crossan. Still, I am of the opinion that all of these works should be kept in academic libraries behind locked and gated doors, to discourage the unwary and youthful, with a sign above reading “This Way Madness Lies”. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/53 "2013-04-21T23:03:03Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > If you really believe in Methodism or Catholicism or Islam, then people who believe and do otherwise are in fact incredibly dangerous, basically tempting you into hell by advocating you cooperate with them. The idea of being a religious person who is tolerant of other religions doesn’t make sense if you really dig into it… Okay, how about I believe in Lutheranism but instead of tolerating other religions, and other Lutherans, I just ignore them? (note: just asked God, and s/he said that I should’ve started doing that years ago) ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/54 "2013-04-21T23:25:15Z")
TL,DR version ‘Shit happens because you’re bad’ ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/55 "2013-04-23T00:37:09Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > Do you have some examples? I’ll take your silence on the question as a no, CR. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/56 "2013-04-23T02:10:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > My sense is that, for some really extreme fundamentalist Christians, if you allow any aspect of your life to not be saturated with your religion, you’re doing Christianity wrong. > [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > And you don’t see the irony in you telling them that they’re doing Christianity wrong. Had I told anyone that, I probably would be able to see some irony in it (especially now that you’ve brought the notion up). As matters stand, I am pretty much indifferent on the question of whether anyone in particular is “doing” Christianity “right” or “wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/57 "2013-04-23T15:56:34Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > I don’t support fundamentalists. I wish they would all drop dead. But I do recognize that they at least have an actual belief system and are usually honest about it. Trying to be a liberal, rational religious person is a losing battle of contradictions, most humorously expressed in the “well, MY reading of the Bible says Jesus was a Democrat so you are a HERETIC” talking point that liberals love to wave around as some sort of masterstroke. Seeing as I consider myself a “liberal, rational religious person”\* I find your opinion intriguing. Your contention is that I don’t have an actual belief system and/or I am not honest about it? Please tell me more, because I find it difficult to believe you have ever had a conversation with one. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/58 "2013-04-23T21:09:29Z")
Your belief system is that there is an esoteric reading of scripture which reveals the hidden meaning of Jesus: his total support for everything the Democratic Party happens to believe at this exact moment. It’s “I don’t really want to follow a religion, but I really like eating pastries on Sunday morning with like-minded people.” ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/59 "2013-04-23T21:34:05Z")
So, cake or death? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144/60 "2013-04-23T21:44:55Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > So, cake or death? more like “everlasting cake after death” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sociopathic-christian-shits-on-the-boston-bombing-interfaith-service/656144.md?page=4)