I hope you don’t think you’re an exception. I encounter your hostility practically everywhere on the board. You seem to take things way too seriously.
Wow, really? You find jsgoddess hostile? I think this one might just be either about you or in your mind. She is generally one of the nicer posters. She generally tries to find the positives when people are being negative.
Do you really find her being hostile in general or maybe she has just challenged you a few times?
Jim
I agree with this. More specifically, it affects how closely they read something.
I don’t disagree with the decision to ban fatgail/jarbabyj/tiny ham, although I am sorry she set up the sock account. I never saw her post anything objectionable, or even what would trigger cyber-stalking.
If she really wanted a fresh start, and no association with anything she had posted in the past, I have a feeling that maintaining a new identity would be a difficult task. Even if the mods allowed it, if you were running away from past jerkdom, the temptation would be to re-engage in the same jerkdom. If you were running away from people who were harassing you because of what you posted, they would spot you, or at least see someone posting in a way that would trigger a desire to harass. And start it up again, whether or not they realized they were harassing the same person.
If I said to myself, “Gee, the boards hate conservatives, so I want a new account so no one will harass me on that basis”, and the mods allowed me to set up another account, either I could not post to political threads, or post things I didn’t believe. The first is no fun and a name change wouldn’t be necessary to bring it off. The second is too hard to maintain - how can I keep track of what I believe this time?
I’m sorry tiny ham is gone, but what can you do?
Regards,
Shodan
You’ve confirmed my earlier guess that you want this board to be a different kind of board than what it actually is. I don’t think it’s a matter of how seriously people take the board. After all, you’re the one who started this thread and keeps vociferously defending her opinion in it.
I don’t think her posts as fatgail represent any departure from this self-presentation.
Ooh ooh! Do me next!
::hyper::
Except that Featherlou and Heffalump and Roo have already shown that no amount or length of playing nice will earn you a forgive or forget.
Whoa, wait! I think I need to clean that up a bit. If we’re talking about the same incident, the reason I remember it was because I was on the side of the poster. I think they made some poor judgments and was sadly needing to use the message board to give out too much information about it, but from my point of view, there was nothing to forgive. . . about that one incident.* Everyone makes mistakes.
But for that reason, however, I do remember it.
*there was a lot more complexity that made it more complicated later
You know what, Jim, my boy? I find her to be an anal retentive bigotted hag who has made no secret of her disgust for me and for my posts, which a simple search would show you if you’re really all that interested, which you seem to be every goddamn time I interact with somebody. Your nose is always there, sniffing for whatever it is you use to pronounce your judgments about whether I’m doing the right thing or thinking the right way. But since you delight in making every fucking thing your business, check the history. Compare how many times she sniped at me or took a side against me to how may times (if any) she said a kind word or found “the positives” in anything I said. She has even gone so far as to recommend that no one ever read my posts. And it isn’t just me. A cursory review of her Pit posts shows that she rips and tears down a wide variety of people, bashing them for everything from being Southern to being libertarian — both of which she equates with white supremacy and militia groups. So either do your research or just butt out, okay? Criminey.
Whoa. This has gone from a discussion of board rules and staff actions – which goes in the Pit – to a more personal analysis of thought and action by someone who cannot explain or defend themselves in any way. (Not to mention some namecalling.) And that ain’t right.
I probably should close this thread except that the discussion of rules and actions is still meaningful and to restart this from the beginning would be a further annoyance. I caution everyone not to put personalities into it and do not use this thread to weigh in on their actions; that’s not what this is about.
I think on a board like this one, you really need to have a “no-sock” rule. People are blunt on the board…very very blunt…about their opinions on issues and their feelings about other posters. It’s easy to confront people on all kinds of levels around here, in ways you probably wouldn’t in real life. The only thing we have that holds people back at all is that you can’t run from what you’ve posted.
Besides that, I agree with what Shodan said…to me, this is really an ongoing coversation and relationship I have with people, over a wide variety of topics. I have a pretty good idea of where I stand with people, and I know where they stand with me. I know where folks are coming from on all kinds of subjects, and it facilitates the conversation. In this sense, it’s pretty much like “real life.” You don’t know someone for a year or two or longer, and not have an idea of who they are. I don’t think that’s taking the board too seriously, I think it’s just a normal expectation of having a relationship with someone.
Careful, dude. I got my first, and only, mod warning for a post just like that.
Heh heh heh. I don’t think the Google Ads understand what kind of socks we’re talking about. 
I don’t know what a wigwam sock is, but I think I need some!
I’m getting “undo circumcision damage”! :eek:
Huh? We’re talking evil socks, and they’ve got ads for argyle socks. Seems appropriate to me.
(Arrrrrgh-Gyle is the nemesis of Ambush Bug.)
I think it’s difficult enough to get a handle on who folks are around here w/o allowing for additional personas/accounts per person. Folks that I have intereacted w/for years, I tend to have an idea of who they are, what they’re like etc.
Of course, there have been some spectacular meltdowns here, too. What to do then? What’s happened so far, is that the poster has been allowed to change their name to try and get a ‘fresh start’. But when some one is doing that w/a post count of 4K, it’s kinda obvious something happened. ANd, there’s folks here who seem to be very good at keeping track of who is who was who. I’ve seen any number of folks try and change their names to get a fresh start, only to have their past come up. While it’s tempting to offer some one a totally clean slate, it’s not very realisitic, doesn’t happen in real life either.
THe mature thing to do is to take one’s lumps, appologize to those you’ve insulted, then (and here’s the kicker) don’t do the bad behavior anymore. Sure there will be some who’ll hold grudges for years, like they’re some 401k Plan or something, but most of us have too much going on in our lives to keep track of the bazillion little side plots a place like this has.
Liking or not liking the posters in question isn’t the issue to me. It’s ‘what procedure will allow for the best potential for interaction among members in good standing here, now and in the future’.
And I think that can only be accomplished if we get/have to be who we are.
Why not? This is a little online discussion club, not the fucking UN. It’s not like she broke the sacred all-encompassing “don’t be a jerk” guideline. Or maybe she did, that one is always hard to peg.
The Doper who gave it as a gift doubtlessly could afford it and was certainly not “screwed out of it”. Whoever it was wanted that sock to stick around. If anything the mods screwed the donor out of something. And seriously, you don’t find any room for sympathy that someone so desperately wants to be a part of a specific community but is too scared to face her former rivals internet wrath? That’s as pathetic as all get out.
TubaDiva, while “fat gail” is being used as an example I guess she’s given up on coming back so she is pretty useful to use as a hypothetical. The only “personal analysis of thought and action” is what she has plainly stated herself:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7265758&postcount=4
I wouldn’t say that, but you should be prepared to live with what you post here.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...758&postcount=4
So this was her 2nd return as a sock, after being given dispensation from the powers that be to rejoin after her 1st banning??