# Sodom and Gomorrah: the Movie **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067 "2006-01-22T04:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/41 "2006-01-22T23:10:12Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Wait, is he in the Sodom movie? 'Cause he’s real purty . . . Yep. He’s the gay temptation for the Married Man. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/42 "2006-01-22T23:11:28Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Yep. He’s the gay temptation for the Married Man. And [this picture](http://www.yessy.com/jamesjacob/cityview.html?i=11046) makes me think it’s not much of a stretch for him to “play” gay. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/43 "2006-01-22T23:20:11Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > My Whooshdar is going off. If this is a real movie, I’d almost bet money this is a parody of Fundie movies. > No mention of personal faith or testimonies or anything in the Cast/Crew except for a generic reference to the Creator of All. > > Oh yeah- and on the Bible passages page- they spelt Ezekiel wrong. > > Speaking of Ezekiel, in the interest of full disclosure, this is the Ezekiel passage copied & pasted from the site- complete with the misspelling > > \*Ezekial 16:49-50 > > [49] Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. > > [50] And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.\* > > Most Biblicists would include the homosexuality in V 50’s “abomination” category. > > One of Sodom’s sins was sexual violence, straight or gay- female-guised angels wouldn’t have been safe out at night either. Conversely, if the Sodom’s gay community has strolled over to invite the **male angels** for a night of disco & anal sex, and then has peacefully strolled away when they were refused- I doubt the Nuking would have happened. This is actually something I’ve been wondering. I have read some parts of the Bible, but since I am not Christian I don’t feel obligated to read it all. However, the parts I have read show that angels have no genitalia. How, then, is gender determined among angels? Gender typing, schemas, what? The placement of cheekbones? Whether or not they leave the royal throne’s seat up? Honestly, I was never clear on that. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/44 "2006-01-23T00:09:05Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > This is actually something I’ve been wondering. I have read some parts of the Bible, but since I am not Christian I don’t feel obligated to read it all. However, the parts I have read show that angels have no genitalia. How, then, is gender determined among angels? Gender typing, schemas, what? The placement of cheekbones? Whether or not they leave the royal throne’s seat up? > > Honestly, I was never clear on that. Well, the only way to tell is to mention Judy Garland. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/45 "2006-01-23T00:10:38Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > However, the parts I have read show that angels have no genitalia. How, then, is gender determined among angels? Gender typing, schemas, what? The placement of cheekbones? Whether or not they leave the royal throne’s seat up? They just rub each other funny–that’s how they get their jollies. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/46 "2006-01-23T00:55:39Z")
If there’s some hot lesbian love scenes (or what passes for them in a fundie movie) with Marnee McClellan, I’d have to watch at least those. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/47 "2006-01-23T01:04:52Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > IIRC, Sodom’s destruction was triggered when the men in the city wanted to buttfuck the Son of God without properly greeting him first and it all went downhill from there. Dunno about Gamorrah. There’s actually surprisingly little Jesus, aka Son of God, in the Old Testament. Two angels enter Sodom, to see just how wicked it is, and while Lot tries to protect them, everyone else want to rape them. [Genesis 19](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=19&version=31). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/48 "2006-01-23T01:21:31Z")
For the record, God’s decision to smoke Sodom had already been made before the incident with angels ever occurred. The men of Sodom wanting to “know” the angels (and it’s debatable whether that passage was meant to imply anything carnal) was not the reason Sodom was destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/49 "2006-01-23T01:23:31Z")
The expedition of the angels was a proximate cause. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/50 "2006-01-23T01:26:37Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > the parts [of the bible] I have read show that angels have no genitalia. What specific parts would those be? I’ve read the whole bible and, while I don’t have it memorized, I certainly don’t remember anything about angel dongs (or the lack thereof.) Are you sure you aren’t thinking of Kevin Smith’s _Dogma_? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/51 "2006-01-23T01:28:49Z")
> [@Helen's Eidolon](#): > > There’s actually surprisingly little Jesus, aka Son of God, in the Old Testament. There is in fact no mention at all of Jesus in the Old Testament. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/52 "2006-01-23T01:29:09Z")
> [@Helen's Eidolon](#): > > There’s actually surprisingly little Jesus, aka Son of God, in the Old Testament. Two angels enter Sodom, to see just how wicked it is, and while Lot tries to protect them, everyone else want to rape them. [Genesis 19](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=19&version=31). Angels, then. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/53 "2006-01-23T01:35:36Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > There is in fact no mention at all of Jesus in the Old Testament. No! Really? I can’t imagine why that would be! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/54 "2006-01-23T01:40:19Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > And [this picture](http://www.yessy.com/jamesjacob/cityview.html?i=11046) makes me think it’s not much of a stretch for him to “play” gay. If he _is_ a queermo, then why would he appear in a movie like this? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/55 "2006-01-23T01:47:24Z")
When I clicked on the OP’s link, I giggled at the word “Enter” and quickly realized I must have watched too much **Beavis and Butthead**. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/56 "2006-01-23T02:02:37Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > What specific parts would those be? I’ve read the whole bible and, while I don’t have it memorized, I certainly don’t remember anything about angel dongs (or the lack thereof.) Are you sure you aren’t thinking of Kevin Smith’s _Dogma_? Well, it is always said by fundamentalists that they have no genitalia. Doing some research, though, I have found my mistake: supposedly, they are spirits that, when they have to speak to humans, assume a male-body form. Otherwise, they are just spirits with no flesh or bones, generally being non-material beings. So to say that they are male angels is either redundant, missing the point, or wrong depending on the context. This can be found, infered, or whatever in these passages: Luke 1:11, Matt 22:30, Col 1:16, 2 Kgs 6:15-17, etc. But the question remains: if they assume a human, male body, do they also have a penis? I’m sure it would, but I also assume that, as seen in the Resurection, glow in the dark condoms would not be needed for angels. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/57 "2006-01-23T02:15:22Z")
If it is a parody, I appologize. Still, considering the amount of crazy fundy homophobes out there, I think it could go either way. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/58 "2006-01-23T02:18:59Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If it is a parody, I appologize. Still, considering the amount of crazy fundy homophobes out there, I think it could go either way. What really sucks is that most of the attractive crazy homophobe females I know WON’T go either way. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/59 "2006-01-23T02:23:48Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > …angel dongs… Wasn’t that the Hostess snack you used to see in commercials during Charlie Brown cartoons? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/60 "2006-01-23T02:27:30Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > What really sucks is that most of the attractive crazy homophobe females I know WON’T go either way. [George Carlin] Have you ever noticed that the women who are against lesbianism are ones you wouldn’t want to fuck anyway? [/GC] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067.md?page=4)