# Sodom and Gomorrah: the Movie **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067 "2006-01-22T04:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/61 "2006-01-23T02:33:13Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Wasn’t that the Hostess snack you used to see in commercials during Charlie Brown cartoons? I believe you’re thinking of Dolly Madison’s Zinger. Mrs. Madison was obviously an angelic woman. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/62 "2006-01-23T09:37:46Z")
> [@Helen's Eidolon](#): > > There’s actually surprisingly little Jesus, aka Son of God, in the Old Testament. Two angels enter Sodom, to see just how wicked it is, and while Lot tries to protect them, everyone else want to rape them. [Genesis 19](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=19&version=31). Angels are in fact refered to as the Son **s** of God in the Old Testament. Of course that does answer the question of whether they can be male or female, the Son I guess that does raise the question of where the female angels are. And if the Sons of God couldn’t have impregnated them instead. I have to say, using S&G to show God’s attitude to homosexuality is a particular warped thought. Unless you’re really saying being homosexual = forming gangs and going out raping people. Can’t say I’ve noticed any gay rape gangs…and I’ve lived in San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/63 "2006-01-23T09:42:06Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > Of course that does answer the question of whether they can be male or female, the Son I guess that does raise the question of where the female angels are. And if the Sons of God couldn’t have impregnated them instead. . :smack: Bugger. Of course that does answer the question of whether they can be male or female, the Sons of God were busy impregnating the Daughters of Man. So fairly male then. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/64 "2006-01-23T15:04:59Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Well, the only way to tell is to mention Judy Garland. _Clang, clang, clang went the Trolley!_ > [@Excalibre](#): > > If he is a queermo, then why would he appear in a movie like this? Money and a credit for the [resume.](http://us.castingcallpro.com/u/70473) It’s a resume, I might add, which says he’s willing to appear nude. His credits include a Fire Island Films feature about a single-mom who enters the cyber-sex industry to make ends meet. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/65 "2006-01-23T15:13:50Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > …to make ends meet. I don’t think she’s doing it right. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/66 "2006-01-23T16:00:36Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > I have to say, using S&G to show God’s attitude to homosexuality is a particular warped thought. Especially as this film’s plot – a married man who, in midlife, decides he’s gay and starts having an affair with a guy – has absolutely nothing to do with that story. ---
**Author:** ![TwoTrouts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@TwoTrouts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoTrouts)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/67 "2006-01-23T17:57:51Z")
In the '80’s I saw a fairly high-budget film called _Sodom and Gomorrah_. “Fairly high-budget” for its genre, that is. It was a XXX prono/comedy that was actually very funny. The part of God was played by a space-suit wearing Chimpanzee, supposedly hovering in a space ship over Earth and watching the acts perpetrated in the cities. Chimp/God spoke like John Wayne: “Ya don’t wanna get me mad, Pilgrim, or I’ll hafta come down there and smite you!” If I recall correctly, he was the only one who didn’t get naked. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/68 "2006-01-24T02:54:16Z")
> [@TwoTrouts](#): > > In the '80’s I saw a fairly high-budget film called _Sodom and Gomorrah_. “Fairly high-budget” for its genre, that is. It was a XXX prono/comedy that was actually very funny. The part of God was played by a space-suit wearing Chimpanzee, supposedly hovering in a space ship over Earth and watching the acts perpetrated in the cities. Chimp/God spoke like John Wayne: “Ya don’t wanna get me mad, Pilgrim, or I’ll hafta come down there and smite you!” If I recall correctly, he was the only one who didn’t get naked. I saw that! No M2M gay sex, interestingly enough. The Sodomites were merely practicing het anal sex for population control. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/69 "2006-01-24T03:07:30Z")
Are they going to include the part where Lot’s daughters get him drunk and date-rape him? That was my favorite part of Genesis, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/70 "2006-01-24T03:13:15Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > Are they going to include the part where Lot’s daughters get him drunk and date-rape him? That was my favorite part of Genesis, honestly. Yeh . . . That family was a really odd Lot! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/71 "2006-01-24T16:43:55Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If it is a parody, I appologize. Still, considering the amount of crazy fundy homophobes out there, I think it could go either way. Unfortunately I don’t think it is a parody. It would have to be much campier (ala [Betty Bowers](http://www.bettybowers.com/) to be successful. I am not really familiar enough with the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, but the basic plotline described sounds like it is cribbed from [Making Love](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084293/), just with an uglier cast. ---
**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/72 "2006-01-24T18:06:36Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > However, the parts I have read show that angels have no genitalia. Well, geez. What fun are they, then? Also, “angel dongs”…I’m sorry, but does that not sound like a great name for a snack cake? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/73 "2006-01-24T18:30:59Z")
> [@supervenusfreak](#): > > I am not really familiar enough with the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, but the basic plotline described sounds like it is cribbed from [Making Love](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084293/), just with an uglier cast. I never saw that but I remember the trailer. One more difference: In _Making Love_ the married guy’s gay love interest was a man his own age. In _Sodom & Gomorrah,_ it’s a college-age boy. Probably a deliberate choice. Makes the whole thing seem sleazier – the gay angle combined with the older-man-chasing-young-ass angle. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/74 "2006-01-24T18:50:10Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > Angels are in fact refered to as the Son **s** of God in the Old Testament. > > Of course that does answer the question of whether they can be male or female, the Son I guess that does raise the question of where the female angels are. And if the Sons of God couldn’t have impregnated them instead. If you’re reffering to the passage I think you are, it’s may not be about angels at all. ‘The Sons of Heaven abandoned their duties and fell to lust with daughters of men’. Many people have read it to mean angels, and the Apocryphal story of the Grigori or Watchers is based on that line. But it could also be referring to priests, scribes, and scholars abandoning their duties to G-d and the community and caring only about their own sexual pleasure. This later happens to a few kings EG One spots a woman sunbathing nude on a rooftop, when he discovers that she is married the king sends her husband to certain death in battle so that he can marry her. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/75 "2006-01-24T19:02:45Z")
I think it’s going to be hilarious, like a Jack Chick tract come to life! w00t! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/76 "2006-01-24T19:35:25Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > I think it’s going to be hilarious, like a Jack Chick tract come to life! w00t! Do we get to the the possessing-demons crawling on the gay guys’ heads?! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/77 "2006-01-24T19:36:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Do we get to the the possessing-demons crawling on the gay guys’ heads?! 🙂 :smack: “Do we get to **see**. . .” ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/78 "2006-01-24T19:58:55Z")
Re Sons Of Heaven Esau gives up his birthright, with all of its privileges and obligations, for a bowl of stew. He gives up a role as patriarch in exchange for a single meal. Esau is following his stomach instead of his crotch, but he abandons what his father and G-d told him to do just so that he can satisfy his physical desires. Solomon had many wives. Some of them were not Jewish. He allowed those wives to build temples and idols. Solomon was the king. It’s good to be the king. But, the blood flowed away from his brain and his legendary wisdom failed him. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/79 "2006-01-24T21:00:57Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :smack: “Do we get to **see**. . .” One can only hope. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/80 "2006-01-24T21:15:22Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > If you’re reffering to the passage I think you are, it’s may not be about angels at all. ‘The Sons of Heaven abandoned their duties and fell to lust with daughters of men’. Possibly not. And I’m not going to argue about what mythical creatures really were 😃 . But this site [http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/gen6sons.htm](http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/gen6sons.htm) makes a good argument for angels. And also mentioned this passage: JUDE 6 Remember too the angels, how some of them were not content to keep the dominion given to them but abandoned their proper home; and God has reserved them for judgement on the great Day, bound beneath the darkness in everlasting chains. 7 Remember Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbouring towns; like the angels, they committed fornication and followed unnatural lusts; and they paid the penalty in eternal fire, an example for all to see. (NEB) just to bring things around in a nice circle 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067.md?page=5)