# Sodom and Gomorrah: the Movie **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067 "2006-01-22T04:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/101 "2011-01-20T15:21:03Z")
Just watched the trailer. It is basically bizarro Brokeback Mountain. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/102 "2011-01-20T16:47:36Z")
“I don’t wish I didn’t know how to start you.” ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/103 "2011-01-20T16:48:13Z")
> [@Mellivora\_capensis](#): > > Why is anal intercourse referred to as sodomy? > > [snipped space] > > Coz it’s a lot easier to say than gomorrahy. I thought it was because calling it gomorrhea would have carried a negative connotation. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/104 "2011-01-20T17:36:48Z")
I preferred the book. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/105 "2011-01-20T18:58:34Z")
I’d see it, if only because seeing a city get destroyed by meteors and shit would be really frickin’ cool. Hell, get Roland Emmerich to direct it and I’d pay for a theater ticket for that. And besides, it couldn’t be worse than Armageddon, could it? Edit: On second thought, I just went to the website. It’s just some Fireproof-esque Christian movie. Damn it, I was hoping for an actual depiction of Sodom and Gomorrah getting trashed. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/106 "2011-01-20T19:00:41Z")
> [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](#): > > I’d see it, if only because seeing a city get destroyed by meteors and shit would be really frickin’ cool. > > And besides, it couldn’t be worse than Armageddon, could it? Darn I read you too fast, and saw meteors of shit, which would show God having a mean streak of humour. I’ve always known about his mean streak, still waiting on the humour. Platypus dont count. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/107 "2011-01-20T19:05:02Z")
Should anyone tell them that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah didn’t have anything to do with homosexuality? Or just let it be a surprise? 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/108 "2011-01-20T21:40:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, you have not heard of “[fake trailers](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealTrailerFakeMovie)” before? (warning, TV Tropes link, you may not come back) > > I think Poe’s law could be involved, but when the news section in the New fire films site consists of just a single blog post (their own, it seems) from 2007 and nothing more, I have to say the effort fizzled or it was a real trailer, fake movie. If it’s a fake movie, it’s a big missed opportunity. I mean, incidents like Haggart and Rekers show that there’s a veritable Craig’s-list of potential customers for a hot-and-heavy gay movie tailored to the right-wing market. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/109 "2011-01-21T00:48:45Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > If it’s a fake movie, it’s a big missed opportunity. I mean, incidents like Haggart and Rekers show that there’s a veritable Craig’s-list of potential customers for a hot-and-heavy gay movie tailored to the right-wing market. As the one of the actors got credit elsewhere, I tend to think that the trailer was “the movie” and full length :), like Homestar Runner did with Peasant’s Quest. From the Previous TV Tropes link: > [@](#): > > Homestar Runner has done this a few times, most famously making a fake trailer for a movie based on their game Peasant’s Quest. According to their website, there already is a full-length Peasant’s Quest movie: “its ‘full length’ is three minutes” (the length of the trailer). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/110 "2011-01-21T01:38:41Z")
> [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](#): > > I’d see it, if only because seeing a city get destroyed by meteors and shit would be really frickin’ cool. Hell, get Roland Emmerich to direct it and I’d pay for a theater ticket for that. > > And besides, it couldn’t be worse than Armageddon, could it? > > Edit: On second thought, I just went to the website. It’s just some Fireproof-esque Christian movie. Damn it, I was hoping for an actual depiction of Sodom and Gomorrah getting trashed. > [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Darn I read you too fast, and saw meteors of shit, [Yellow dwagon attack!](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/12/book-2-%E2%80%93-page-48/) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/111 "2011-01-24T07:42:51Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Should anyone tell them that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah didn’t have anything to do with homosexuality? The term “sodomy” itself is not homsexual-specific, since it can also refer to oral sex. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/112 "2011-01-24T16:34:01Z")
> [@fuzzypickles](#): > > The term “sodomy” itself is not homsexual-specific, since it can also refer to oral sex. Which only homos do, God fearing men hump the way Jesus would have wanted, reverse cowgirl. I poked around some of the forums, why don’t believers understand that quoting the Bible to support their argument to nonbelievers is like quoting Dr. Seuss. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/113 "2011-01-24T16:37:53Z")
I really liked this posters comment: > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > **Freearsenal** : You do realize though that watching anything on television can lead someone to believe it’s good. Something the media knows very well, and constantly sends out. Same reason McDonald’s and Burger King, as well as many soda companies keep advertising, becuase the more we see that restaurant or the drinks in a positive light, the more likely we are to go into it, despite how unhealthy it is for us. > > **SuperStud** : Even though chritianity is advertised and preached on a daily basis we choose to remain the way we are. You are the one who will change. We will make you change and we will make you accept us. If Hollywood will push our agenda, that’s good for us. Look at all the shows we have now. Gay is mainstream, but religious television and movies aren’t. This movie won’t do much either and if it does it’s only a once a year thing. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/114 "2011-01-25T16:42:18Z")
Why doesn’t the same studio do _David & Jonathan?_ Or _The Beloved Disciple?_ ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/115 "2011-01-25T16:48:24Z")
> [@fuzzypickles](#): > > The term “sodomy” itself is not homsexual-specific, since it can also refer to oral sex. It can refer to lots of other things, too. Americans (and Britons) were too prudish to actually discuss the sex acts they found horrifying so they referred to them as “unspeakable acts”, “crimes against nature”, sodomy, and things like that. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/116 "2011-01-25T16:48:36Z")
[QUOTE=fuzzypickles] The term “sodomy” itself is not homsexual-specific, since it can also refer to oral sex. [/QUOTE] Sure, but that was later (I think originally ‘sodomy’ referred to a laundry list of non-specific sex acts). My understanding is that the ‘sin’ in the Sodom and Gomorrah story that the cities were punished for was failure to respect hospitality rules and customs, the violation of which (across the board by the citizens of both cities) meant they needed to be nuked from orbit, since that’s the only way to REALLY be sure you get all the bad guys. It had nothing to do with sex at all, homo-sexual or otherwise. The homo-sexuality angle is, afaik, a more modern (Christian) interpretation of the original story. -XT ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/117 "2011-01-25T16:51:42Z")
Watched the preview and my first thought was the “actors” should join some sort of 12-step group to get over their delusion that they can actually, you know, act. Actors Anonymous? The real AA? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/118 "2011-01-25T23:11:07Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Sure, but that was later (I think originally ‘sodomy’ referred to a laundry list of non-specific sex acts). My understanding is that the ‘sin’ in the Sodom and Gomorrah story that the cities were punished for was failure to respect hospitality rules and customs, the violation of which (across the board by the citizens of both cities) meant they needed to be nuked from orbit, since that’s the only way to REALLY be sure you get all the bad guys. It had nothing to do with sex at all, homo-sexual or otherwise. The homo-sexuality angle is, afaik, a more modern (Christian) interpretation of the original story. > > -XT I don’t recall if we’ve already discussed this. It being a zombie thread and all. The consensus among the great scholars of Judaism has always been that the two cities were destroyed for being without compassion, for not being their brothers’ keeper. There are ancient folktales about just how cruel and inhumane the people were to strangers and to each other. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/119 "2011-01-25T23:24:59Z")
Yeah, I don’t know if it was discussed previously either. I didn’t know at first that it was a zombie thread. I had always heard that the ‘sin’ in the S&G story was due to the towns people insisting Lot bring out his guests so that they could know them…which broke several hospitality taboos (and which was why Lot was offering his daughters in exchange, because of the sacred rights of guests in a mans house). Admittedly, it’s been a long time, so I could be getting all or most of the details confused or even wrong. I just remember that the original tale and interpretation didn’t have anything to do with homo-sexuality as the basis for the ‘sin’, that this was a later Christian addition. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067/120 "2011-01-25T23:52:02Z")
Saw the trailer, am reminded of _Making Love_, about a vaguely similar situation (married guy realizes he’s gay, wife is… upset) only with less bible stuff and more Kate Jackson. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodom-and-gomorrah-the-movie/341067.md?page=7)