# Sodomize someone with a police baton? The kid's a liar, I tell ya !! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 8, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311 "2008-12-08T22:28:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/1 "2008-12-08T22:28:06Z")
Yes, obviously the victim is a liar. Nobody did anything. Nothing to see here. Move along, you punks- we said nothing to see here. Oh- you want some of this too? Why can’t people understand how difficult it is to control things when one wears the [gun and shield](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/11/22/2008-11-22_its_all_a_complete_lie_nypd_cop_accused_.html) ?? I swear. Some people are so ungrateful. That kid ought to fall to his knees and thank those law-upholding officers for their actions that night ! By gum, he earned the lesson taught to him. Oh wait. He can’t get to his knees. Too much anal tearing. Well, perhaps he should send a thank-you note then. Fuckers. :mad: [The indictment handed down](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/06/2008-12-06_brooklyn_cop_indicted_in_michael_mineo_s.html) doesn’t change anything. And, by the time the Police Union lawyers are done, the pot-smoking kid will have been transformed into an Enemy Combatant whose very presence in New York City is a clear and present danger to all law-abiding citizens- a young stoner punk who put all of those heroic officers’ lives in danger. In danger, we tell ya ! The question isn’t if the cops will lose their shields. ( They won’t ) The question is how long it will be, now that there are indictments, before this kid is arrested again and again and again and again and again… for…uh…jaywalking? Looking askance at a cop? Carrying a dangerous weapon masked as a cane? Breathing? I give that little hoodlum 10 days, he’s in jail. The little liar. :rolleyes: Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/2 "2008-12-08T22:33:25Z")
Second link seems not to work, despite editing. Here is the [relevant story as of today.](http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6542667) ( Monday, Dec. 8, 2008 ). ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/3 "2008-12-09T01:18:25Z")
My guess is the officers were probably performing an anal search - for offensive weapons, or something - and while one of the officers was casually twirling his baton, he suddenly tripped up, and landed smack, bang, wallop on top of the poor man mentioned above. Hey, fuck it man, accidents happen! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/4 "2008-12-09T01:20:40Z")
Hey, the kid was already acting like he had a stick up his ass, so… ---
**Author:** ![Cagey\_Drifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Cagey\_Drifter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cagey_Drifter)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/5 "2008-12-09T01:22:07Z")
I don’t understand your post. What are you saying? ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/6 "2008-12-09T01:23:32Z")
What is it with NYC police officers and sodomy of suspects (also Abner Louima by Justin Volpe, 1997). I’m not saying it’s a department-wide epidemic or anything but how does one’s mind even go there when deciding to brutalize a suspect? I can’t wait for the extreme L&O types to run in here and say he got what he deserved because he shouldn’t have run. No, he shouldn’t have, but still. In addition, although the facts still haven’t been adjudicated in this case, give some weight to the fact that a grand jury decided to indict and do not be swayed by the fact you may not like that Al Sharpton has gotten involved. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/7 "2008-12-09T01:29:00Z")
They’re supposed to put condoms on those things, for every single use. Every good Domme knows that. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/8 "2008-12-09T01:33:12Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Hey, the kid was already acting like he had a stick up his ass, so… Are you sure they weren’t upset because he was suspected of smoking [trees](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trees) and they just wanted to show him what you’re really supposed to do with forest products? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/9 "2008-12-09T01:48:25Z")
I’d heard the NYPD had a corruption problem, but I didn’t know they were doing stick ups, too. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/10 "2008-12-09T01:49:53Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > In addition, although the facts still haven’t been adjudicated in this case, give some weight to the fact that a grand jury decided to indict and do not be swayed by the fact you may not like that Al Sharpton has gotten involved. A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. They are only gonna hear from the prosecution, and only what the prosecution wants them to hear. A grand jury indictment does not remove the presumption of innocence. That noted, I’m not giving the cops a pass here. If they did what they’re accused of doing, they deserve to face the penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/11 "2008-12-09T01:51:29Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > What is it with NYC police officers and sodomy of suspects (also Abner Louima by Justin Volpe, 1997). I’m not saying it’s a department-wide epidemic or anything but how does one’s mind even go there when deciding to brutalize a suspect?.. I think NYPD is going for a “signature” form of police brutality. Some cops tase. Some cops beat with rubber hoses. NYPD - sodomy. “NYPD. Watch your ass!” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/12 "2008-12-09T01:54:59Z")
If they are found guilty, shoot them. Abuse of Public Trust should be a capital crime. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/13 "2008-12-09T02:01:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > If they are found guilty, shoot them. Abuse of Public Trust should be a capital crime. Which public servant is going to propose that bill? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/14 "2008-12-09T02:02:38Z")
Not one who lives in a glass house, that’s for sure! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/15 "2008-12-09T02:03:31Z")
I think the fact that one of the other officers testified against him and on behalf of the victim speaks volumes. Cops don’t testify against cops, as a rule. If one does, it makes me _very_ suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/16 "2008-12-09T02:06:02Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > If they are found guilty, shoot them. Abuse of Public Trust should be a capital crime. No, send them to prison. In the general population. ;)😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/17 "2008-12-09T03:52:50Z")
If I wanted to give some punk a good ass-whipping, the last thing that would cross my mind would be to shove a nightstick up said punk’s ass. That is some truly sadistic shit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/18 "2008-12-09T04:00:40Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > I can’t wait for the extreme L&O types to run in here and say he got what he deserved because he shouldn’t have run. No, he shouldn’t have, but still. Yes he should of. They were gonna rape him with a metal bar. His mistake was not running fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/19 "2008-12-09T04:25:57Z")
> [@phouka](#): > > I think the fact that one of the other officers testified against him and on behalf of the victim speaks volumes. Cops don’t testify against cops, as a rule. If one does, it makes me _very_ suspicious. Ahhhh yes, that much-beloved Blue Wall of Silence. Why, how can he hold his head up when he walks through the stationhouse from now on??? :dubious: All filthy jokes aside, it is haunting that anal penetration has indeed become the abuse flavor of choice. I wonder if these cops yelled, " It’s Bloomburg Time !!! " as they did it.( Historical reference to one of the OTHER anal rapes by a cop (using an object other than a penis) of an innocent citizen in NYC ) ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311/20 "2008-12-09T05:50:01Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > If I wanted to give some punk a good ass-whipping, the last thing that would cross my mind would be to shove a nightstick up said punk’s ass. That is some truly sadistic shit. This and what **phouka** said. Seriously, a street adjustment is a street adjustment but that’s never something that crosses your mind. Frankly, when it’s tune-up time, the less skin I have to see/touch the better. There’s more to it, and we’ll never know what that is, but this cop needs lock-up. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sodomize-someone-with-a-police-baton-the-kids-a-liar-i-tell-ya/476311.md?page=2)