# Soldier Gets Death **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 29, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728 "2005-04-29T16:10:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/1 "2005-04-29T16:10:20Z")
[For grenade attack at the start of the war.](http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/28/akbar.trial.ap/index.html) > [@](#): > > A military jury sentenced a soldier to death Thursday for a grenade and rifle attack on his own comrades during the opening days of the Iraq invasion, a barrage that killed two officers and that prosecutors said was driven by religious extremism. > > Sgt. Hasan Akbar, who gave a brief, barely audible apology hours earlier, stood at attention between his lawyers as the verdict was delivered. He showed no emotion. > > He could have been sentenced to life in prison with or without parole for the early morning March 2003 attack, which also wounded 14 fellow members of the Army’s 101st Airborne Division at Camp Pennsylvania in Kuwait I don’t think that they’ll have any trouble finding volunteers to carry out the sentence. ---
**Author:** ![guinnog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@guinnog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guinnog)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/2 "2005-04-29T16:20:41Z")
Or… > [@](#): > > A jury composed of world opinion sentenced a rogue terrorist nation to ridicule, contempt and hatred Thursday for an illegal all-out land and air attack on the helpless civilians of a sovereign nation during the opening days of the Iraq invasion, a barrage that killed over 100 000 civilians and rising daily and that prosecutors said was driven by religious extremism. > > Pres G W Bush, who gave no brief, barely audible apology ever, stood at attention between his lawyers as the verdict was delivered. The draft-dodging alcoholic and nose-candy merchant showed no emotion. > > He could have been sentenced to life in prison with or without parole for the early morning March 2003 attack, which also wounded permanently the credibility of his nation. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/3 "2005-04-29T16:25:37Z")
Which has _WHAT_, exactly, to do with the deaths of people who had no say in where they were sent or what they did at the hands of a comrade who swore the same oaths they did, **guinnog**? Pro-war or anti-war, it has sweet fuck-all to do with the fact that this asshole ambushed people he swore to protect. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/4 "2005-04-29T16:33:37Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > I don’t think that they’ll have any trouble finding volunteers to carry out the sentence. Actually an article said it’s done by lethal injection. I would think the army would use a firing squad. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/5 "2005-04-29T16:34:01Z")
**guinnog** While I might agree with your sentiments in ANOTHER thread, your post in THIS thread is pure asshatery. ---
**Author:** ![guinnog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@guinnog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guinnog)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/6 "2005-04-29T16:35:54Z")
> [@Happy Scrappy Hero Pup](#): > > Which has _WHAT_, exactly, to do with the deaths of people who had no say in where they were sent or what they did at the hands of a comrade who swore the same oaths they did, **guinnog**? Let me answer your question with another question. Which maverick killer did more damage? Bush or this soldier? Take your time… > [@Happy Scrappy Hero Pup](#): > > Pro-war or anti-war, it has sweet fuck-all to do with the fact that this asshole ambushed people he swore to protect. If you truly cannot understand that this is precisely the sort of incident that happens in war, that it is unlikely to have happened without a war, and that the needless war was an infinitely worse thing than this single incident from the war, then I doubt that I can explain it to you. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/7 "2005-04-29T16:36:07Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Actually an article said it’s done by lethal injection. > I would think the army would use a firing squad. Somebody’s got to stick the needle in, and push the plunger down. ---
**Author:** ![guinnog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@guinnog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guinnog)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/8 "2005-04-29T16:36:55Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > **guinnog** > > While I might agree with your sentiments in ANOTHER thread, your post in THIS thread is pure asshatery. Whereas your post was just a waste of electrons. Next time wait until you have something to say, eh? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/9 "2005-04-29T16:44:10Z")
It’s a trap! And **guinnog** , your so-called point is complete shit. ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/10 "2005-04-29T16:44:52Z")
My sister-in-law’s brother was in that division. Luckily he wasn’t there to be hurt (he was very ill), but I still hope they off that fucker soon. The scum doesn’t deserve to live another day. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/11 "2005-04-29T16:47:59Z")
He won’t be executed. The military has not executed anyone since 1961, and that includes Lt. William Calley for his ordering and participation in the My Lai massacre. Also, this is a political war, and I think the sentence will be put down to life without parole because he IS Muslim, and given that others have committed crimes more heinous than this they can try to make a case that he’s being executed because of his religion and/or beliefs. With the way things are going the military cannot afford that reputation. That said, I think he’s scum. That could have been me that he killed. I think he deserves the death penalty, and I think you’re right that there wouldn’t be any trouble finding someone to do it, but I just don’t think it’s going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/12 "2005-04-29T16:49:51Z")
> [@guinnog](#): > > Whereas your post was just a waste of electrons. Next time wait until you have something to say, eh? O.K. You are an asshat. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/13 "2005-04-29T16:51:19Z")
> [@guinnog](#): > > Whereas your post was just a waste of electrons. Next time wait until you have something to say, eh? Talk about a waste of electrons … Do you often condemn an act while actually doing it all in the same post? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/14 "2005-04-29T16:53:21Z")
:rolleyes: **guinnog** : hyperbole. Look it up. ---
**Author:** ![guinnog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@guinnog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guinnog)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/15 "2005-04-29T17:05:15Z")
> [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > Talk about a waste of electrons … Do you often condemn an act while actually doing it all in the same post? Talk about a waste of electrons … Do you often condemn an act while actually doing it all in the same post? ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/16 "2005-04-29T17:10:19Z")
> [@guinnog](#): > > Or… \>\>A jury composed of world opinion a jury composed of board opinion thinks you’re a schmuck. \>\>sentenced a rogue The UK, Australia, Poland, etc. want words with you. \>\>terrorist nation You don’t know what “terrorist” means, do you? \>\>to ridicule, contempt and hatred Thursday for an illegal all-out land and air attack on the helpless civilians of a sovereign nation Would it be any better if they weren’t sovereign? “Call the invasion off- Saddam won 110% of the popular vote in sham elections!” \>\>during the opening days of the Iraq invasion, a barrage that killed over 100 000 civilians and rising daily and that prosecutors said was driven by religious extremism. Is “religious extremism” your new catchphrase since “blood for oil” has been discredited? Please provide a cite, ANY CITE, that this had anything to do with “religious extremism”. And that 100,000 number is questionable at best, discredited at worst. Search GD. \>\>Pres G W Bush, who gave no brief, barely audible apology ever, stood at attention between his lawyers as the verdict was delivered. The draft-dodging alcoholic and nose-candy merchant showed no emotion. He was drafted and refused to serve? news to me. butt hat’s not the point. The point is that this is shitty satire (shatire?). Shouldn’t you be miming? ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/17 "2005-04-29T17:12:55Z")
Har. I said “butt hat”. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/18 "2005-04-29T17:16:08Z")
> [@guinnog](#): > > Or… Or… what? You’re just going to post a quote without anything to say about it? This thread is about what this fucking asshole did to his own. Not about what ever bullshit you’re on. What this fucker did was wrong, and he deserves what’s coming to him. ---
**Author:** ![Wartime\_Consigliori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9d8465/32.png) [@Wartime\_Consigliori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wartime_Consigliori)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/19 "2005-04-29T17:20:57Z")
> [@Mojo](#): > > Har. I said “butt hat”. But you surely meant “Ass Hat” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728/20 "2005-04-29T17:24:01Z")
For the record I think what the soldier did was insane, and what Bush has done is insane as well. They’re not mutually exclusive you know. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldier-gets-death/301728.md?page=2)