# Soldiers who think the rules don't apply to them **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 1, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250 "2013-05-01T20:11:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/21 "2013-05-02T00:01:46Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I saw an old guy taking the senior discount. The nerve! > > After he’d raped and pillaged his way through the Belle Vista Retirement Community Piggly-Wiggly store, of course. Where was he parked? ---
**Author:** ![donnie\_darko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@donnie\_darko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/donnie_darko)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/22 "2013-05-02T00:05:40Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > No, you can’t have a discount on that computer. No, you can’t go into the movies for free. No, you can’t park there. No, you can’t rape and murder your way through the Middle East without being prosecuted for it. > > No, you can’t crash a high school prom. > > [Kansas high school apologizes to airman who was barred from attending prom with sister – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kansas-high-school-apologizes-airman-prom-flap-article-1.1331863) > > What is with this fucking worship of people for being in the military? Who gives a shit that you’re an “airman”? The rule is no one over 21 at the prom. Why do you think you get to do whatever you want? I agree. Why should I respect people just because they choose to serve multinationals? ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/23 "2013-05-02T00:13:46Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Who goes to prom with their brother? Weird. Someone who hasn’t seen him in a long while. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/24 "2013-05-02T00:42:14Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Someone who hasn’t seen him in a long while. Nobody who isn’t weird would take her brother to prom. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/25 "2013-05-02T01:22:03Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I saw an old guy taking the senior discount. The nerve! > > After he’d raped and pillaged his way through the Belle Vista Retirement Community Piggly-Wiggly store, of course. Oh, yeah, Morbo, he _was_ parked in the “Reserved for Our Over-65 Friends” spot, but forgot to put it in Park… (I threw in the “pillaged” comment because he held up our line while he found exactly $1.87 in change from the pockets of his tweed sport coat.) Man, _CondoRobot_, there are much better targets out there than a polite serviceman. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/26 "2013-05-02T02:11:04Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Nobody who isn’t weird would take her brother to prom. Or can’t get a date otherwise. And there’s nothing wrong with that. She SHOULD have been able to be escorted to prom by her brother, all sharply dressed in his uniform (and to add: I was surprised to see this guy had a high and tight haircut. Air Force personnel are generally encouraged to grow beards and neck hair since they normally aren’t required to do anything). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/27 "2013-05-02T02:20:48Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > You’ve never been in line behind someone at a store shamelessly begging for a “military discount”"? You must not do your own shopping. I do in fact do all my own shopping and have never had this experience. Not once. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/28 "2013-05-02T02:24:20Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Who goes to prom with their brother? Weird. I thought maybe it was Kentucky until I read the article. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/29 "2013-05-02T02:25:10Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Nobody who isn’t weird would take her brother to prom. Nobody who isn’t weird thinks this is weird. Seriously, people have family members take them to prom all the time. It’s so well known it shows up on sitcoms. Sure, people usually prefer going with a boyfriend or girlfriend, but that’s not always possible. And, because I know it will come up, I didn’t go at all. At the time I didn’t really want to go. Now I regret that I never had that experience. Stupid MORP proselytizers. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/30 "2013-05-02T02:35:14Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > I do in fact do all my own shopping and have never had this experience. Not once. Same here. I’ve been in line behind uniformed servicemembers while retail clerks offered or gave them military discounts, but I’ve never heard a servicemember _ask_ for one. I have a feeling that what the OP calls “shamelessly begging for a military discount” might merely mean “casually inquiring whether the establishment in question happens to offer a military discount”, though. If it’s customary for many retail establishments to knock down their prices to servicemembers, I don’t see why people who qualify for such discounts shouldn’t be free to ask politely whether a discount is available (as long as they’re willing to take no for an answer, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/31 "2013-05-02T02:54:59Z")
By the way, AFAICT the OP has still not cited any specific instances of actual misconduct on the part of the military personnel he’s inviting us to get mad at. Mind you, I’m well aware that there have been in the past and doubtless continue to be various instances of actual misconduct, sometimes very grave ones, on the part of military personnel. But if you haven’t got a specific recent accusation to put on the table, your generic-outrage Pitting tends to fall pretty flat. Of course, **Condescending Robot** is typically so tightly wound that it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the mere fact of somebody requesting permission for a 22-year-old servicemember to attend a 21-and-under prom was enough all by itself to send him into a frothing rage at the brutal injustice of military privilege. But if he wants any of us less white-knuckled posters to join in on his Two Minutes’ Hate against arrogant soldiery, it seems to me he needs to dig up some cites of things a _reasonable_ person could get upset about. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/32 "2013-05-02T03:28:07Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > It’s just a shot away. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/33 "2013-05-02T03:41:58Z")
They do seem entitled. I saw a guy get military discount once. Then he ass raped the cashier and asked me for directions to the local movie theatre. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/34 "2013-05-02T03:42:02Z")
I’ve asked if stores have a military discount before because a lot do and you just don’t know about it. If they say they don’t I say, "that’s all right " and then pay whatever the total is. And i still rock my high and tight. The wife likes it and it actually works with my hair. ---
**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/35 "2013-05-02T04:25:57Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Nobody who isn’t weird would take her brother to prom. Sweet weird sisters who are so relieved their brothers are no longer a walking target for xenophobic religious totalitarian zealots behind every rock that they give up a shot at getting raped by Johnny football hero to proudly show them off would. Bless sweet sisters cotton socks. But yeah, as to the OP, to hell with those entitled life risking soldiers thinking we owe them anything but getting fatter and whiter as we waste away leaving our beds unmade for weeks on end until mom threatens to throw our lazy gamer asses out on the street if we don’t at least look for a job. This is America home of the whiney douche who can’t stand to wait in line baby. ---
**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/36 "2013-05-02T04:30:56Z")
If you read the reddit post on this, the Airman got pretty much trashed by Soldiers. So it ain’t Soldiers who feel the sense of entitlement. It is only assholes in the Military who want to score with under-age chicks that feel that this is acceptable. SFC Schwartz ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/37 "2013-05-02T04:58:23Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > … i still rock my high and tight. The wife likes it and it actually works with my hair. Or lack thereof. (just jealous, because you can never have a Bad Hair Day) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/38 "2013-05-02T05:00:33Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Air Force has soldiers? Who knew? > > And they’re in the military? I guess sorta. I kid I kid. The Air Force is not military. Technically only the Army is “military”. But OP if you want to froth at the mouth at military misbehaviour, [this story was right in your link.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/army-major-wife-charged-brutal-abuse-adopted-kids-article-1.1331999) [QUOTE=Link in page OP linked to] Maj. John E. Jackson, 37, and Carolyn Jackson, 35, force-fed their three adopted children hot sauce and red pepper flakes, broke their bones, refused them medical attention and deprived them of water, said U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/39 "2013-05-02T05:06:33Z")
Now _there’s_ some misconduct a reasonable person can get upset about. Yikes. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soldiers-who-think-the-rules-dont-apply-to-them/657250/40 "2013-05-02T05:08:23Z")
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