# Solo: A Star Wars Story seen it thread. (Open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746 "2018-05-24T19:17:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/181 "2018-06-14T10:30:31Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You missed the robot legs? I saw them, but I was looking for them. My wife wasn’t, and she didn’t notice them. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/182 "2018-06-14T12:30:04Z")
I didn’t see his legs either. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Hmm. Should I use my powers of invisibility for good or for evil? But I do see you, EH! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/183 "2018-06-14T13:00:14Z")
So when they cut to the first scene of Han as a soldier in the middle of a battle, did anyone else assume that the Imperial recruiter just lied to Han and sent him too infantry boot camp, instead of flight school? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/184 "2018-06-14T13:18:11Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > …But I do see you, EH! Whew! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/185 "2018-06-14T13:41:28Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > So when they cut to the first scene of Han as a soldier in the middle of a battle, did anyone else assume that the Imperial recruiter just lied to Han and sent him too infantry boot camp, instead of flight school? Oh, for sure. I think that was the intended joke, which did get a laugh. But then they had to kind of retcon it later in the story to explain Han’s piloting proficiency. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/186 "2018-06-14T16:40:53Z")
I finally saw it , and while I liked it, something about it just didn’t “pop” for me like _Rogue One_. It’s kind of hard to describe, but I think it suffers from what I call “The Abrams Effect,” a term I coined after the Star Trek franchise reboot. Basically, and just IMO, _Solo_, like _Star Trek_, is a series of “decent” to “good” action scenes/special-effect extravaganzas, daisy-chained together by a weak overall story. There’s solid acting/performances all around, good characterizations (and since this is a younger, still-forming Han Solo, comparisons to Harrison Ford/Ep.4 are unfair, IMO), even decent dialog/chemistry, but something is just…not quite coming together, not quite coming into focus. Maybe there’s no sense of the “Grand” in Solo; like _Rogue One_, _Solo_ is a story about people, caught up in bigger events. Unlike _Rogue One_, where small actions at the beginning leads to fleets duking it out for the survival of Freedom/Justice ™ in the Galaxy, _Solo_ is more like Ocean’s Eleven. In Space. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/187 "2018-06-14T16:56:15Z")
I haven’t seen the movie, but just learned that it was directed by Ron Howard, so now I think I’ll go! ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/188 "2018-06-14T19:00:13Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > I haven’t seen the movie, but just learned that it was directed by Ron Howard, so now I think I’ll go! He didn’t go. Sorry, just simulating Howard’s narration on Arrested Development 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/189 "2018-06-14T19:54:45Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I suppose that the explanation would be that Han knows what the last name is but he hasn’t used it since whenever and he certainly doesn’t want what he’s doing to get his father killed. > > I would have preferred that Han came up with Solo himself. I like that the Imperial officer didn’t care and just needed a name but Han doing it adds a moment to him becoming his own man and making a journey towards “Han Solo” we see in ANH and subsequent movies. Agreed. > [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > …I was one of the people very confused about Darth Maul’s inclusion, since the math didn’t work out for me. Honestly, taking a character who was sliced in half on screen and fell to his death and throwing him back into the mix seems dumb. But certainly not the dumbest bit of Star Wars canon. > > …L3 was a joy, and the prison break was great. I also liked that while her claim that Lando was in love with her was legitimately funny, it was maybe also true?.. Agreed on both points. I particularly liked the “girl talk” scene with L3 and Qi’ra in the _Falcon_’s cockpit. > [@Hampshire](#): > > Was I the only one getting a Brienne of Tarth vibe from L3 and a Rocket Raccoon vibe from Rio Durant? Nope. > [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Clarke looks much better with her normal dark hair than as a blonde on Game of Thrones. Heh. I like her plenty, either way. > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > …What I did have trouble with was a space dwelling Lovecraftian monster the size of Manhattan Island that lived in a…what was that? Dust cloud? With rocks to bump against? What did it live on? How did it reproduce? (Maybe the one in the asteroid in ESB was a juvenile?) All good questions! > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Just saw it and the best I can say is it was “fine”. Kinda like a meal at TGI Fridays. It’s fine. Nothing to write home about… Pretty much how I reacted, too. > [@GuanoLad](#): > > …I think the Qi’ra storyline will continue onscreen, in the Boba Fett and Kenobi movies, and I think Han, Chewie and, Lando, and Maul will recur in them too, to varying degrees. Han won’t meet Obi Wan, for example, as that would mess up continuity, but Lando might, and Qi’ra could very easily do so. I expect we’ll see Jabba the Hutt and the other known Bounty Hunters too, and maybe even Cad Bane or Hondo. I could go for this (although I could do without Cad Bane or Hondo). > [@Quimby](#): > > …Honestly I think what Disney missed is what made Star Wars so beloved is it was rare. Now it’s everywhere and every year. It’s just another Movie that is out now. Yeah, that was probably part of it. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/190 "2018-06-14T21:00:39Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I think the Qi’ra storyline will continue onscreen, in the Boba Fett and Kenobi movies, and I think Han, Chewie and, Lando, and Maul will recur in them too, to varying degrees. Han won’t meet Obi Wan, for example, as that would mess up continuity, but Lando might, and Qi’ra could very easily do so. I expect we’ll see Jabba the Hutt and the other known Bounty Hunters too, and maybe even Cad Bane or Hondo. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I could go for this (although I could do without Cad Bane or Hondo). It’s already happened in the canon Lucasfilm produced animated web series _Star Wars: Forces of Destiny_. The [episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqFJ5FOtXdg) that premiered the same day \*Solo \*was released features Hondo and IG-88 teaming up to collect a bounty on Qi’ra. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/191 "2018-06-14T21:36:57Z")
Thanks for that, I watched the 1st 4(?) Forces of Destiny and forgot about them – I may have to catch up Brian ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/192 "2018-06-15T23:53:32Z")
I went in with zero expectations, and thought it was great. Ron Howard’s directing style is a perfect fit with this new Disney-fied Star Wars universe. And the fact that it was written by Lawrence Kasdan (and his kid!) helped a lot, too. My favorite line was, “I’ve got a really good feeling about this!” Which not only was funny, but showed that Han was younger and less cynical in his youth. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/193 "2018-06-16T07:12:27Z")
Finally saw it. Geez, was it DARK. And I am not talking thematically. The image was frustratingly dark. My wife and I couldn’t discern faces or what was going until they got to the refinery planet. It was bad. I don’t know if the projector was turned down low, but it was miserable. As far as the movie goes, (what we could see) it was enjoyable. But those of you trying to establish a timeline based on ages and whatever in the Star Wars universe, wouldn’t years be counted differently if you were from a different planet? I mean, Kasshyyk may orbit its star 4 times as many as Correllia orbits its star. Unless, there’s some standardized universal “Year” they’ve established. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/194 "2018-06-16T13:10:38Z")
I’ve got to assume there’s been a galactic establishment of standard time, just like the Western notions of hours and minutes and seconds (and time zones) are now in use all over planet Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/195 "2018-06-20T23:09:49Z")
[The Mouse is worried](https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-the-star-wars-story-films-are-being-put-on-hold-1826992769). ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/196 "2018-06-21T04:31:31Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [The Mouse is worried](https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-the-star-wars-story-films-are-being-put-on-hold-1826992769). Too many pundits are reacting to these movies from a limited point of view, like they’re TV shows that can dodge and weave depending on ratings; but huge VFX tentpole movies take years and years to make, and they don’t have the luxury to react on a dime. They also can take years to be accepted and looked at objectively. The “Exit Poll” approach is not a good guide for anything, especially epic sagas that resonate through pop culture and appeal to wide audiences. Lucasfilm prepped _Solo_ years ago, probably during the production of _The Force Awakens_. They had no reason to expect it to fail, and there’s only so much course correcting they could’ve done if it looked like it might fail. The best they could do is replace the Directors when they had troubles on set, which they felt they had to do, even at the last minute. I think _Solo_’s failure was unpredictable, unfixable, and are just the risks of the game. They’re Disney, they know that. Over-reacting to it is a bad idea. I would be heavily disappointed if Lucasfilm are thinking too short term. They could make things worse before they get better. Having said that, the _Fett_ and _Kenobi_ movies refuse to be officially announced, they’ve been cautious about them from the start. If they are, as I assume, the continuation of the Qi’ra storyline, and _Solo_ wasn’t actually meant to be about Han Solo at all, but the jumping off point for the new characters of Qi’ra and perhaps Enfys Nest, then couching it in familiarity surely seemed like a solid plan, that only failed through chance, and as new characters with new storylines seem to, apparently, be what everyone wants, they should be happy with what they’re doing. Unless it’s a Skywalker saga film, when they seem to want only predictability and formula. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/197 "2018-06-22T04:31:09Z")
The Solo movie is not that bad but the Solo character was pretty well fleshed out in Star Wars 4,5,6,7. There is NOT a lot more to really explore with the Solo character. That being said, a lot of the Solo movie is trying to introduce new characters. However there becomes too many characters to follow. I am a big Star fan but if you ask me to name the main Star Wars characters without using the internet I would go: Darth Vader Luke Leia Han Solo Obiwan Kenobi Rey Darth Maul Jabba the Hutt R2D2 and C3PO Palpatine Yoda After that, the characters become a lot harder to keep up with. Thinking a little harder, I come up with Chewbacca Finn Qui-Gon Boba Fett Jyn Erso Count Dooku General Hux Captain Phasma Padme BB8 Greedo General Grevious Darth Maul Porkins Biggs General Tarkin It becomes a little too many characters to invest in and some of these characters are similar to each other, ie BB8 and R2D2, or General Hux, Tarkin or Count Dooku. Compare Solo to the 2 movies that are likely to top the charts in 2018 Avengers 3 and Black Panther There are even more characters in those movies than Star Wars but the characters in their are probably more interesting being Superheros with interesting powers ie Hulk Spiderman Captain America Thor Thanos Loki Iron Man etc The superheros are interesting in that they represent the ability to use their physicasl powers to prevent crime and help the world and yet they are conflicted as they also have flaws ie Spiderman is the wisecraking teenager who is also insecure with girls and having his Uncle Ben killed (who he blames himself for) Banner/Hulk is someone who has to control his temper or he goes on a smashing spree. Thor is conflicted by his half brother, Loki and his sister, not to mention living up to the legacy of his father, Odin Thanos is the all powerful Villian who can best even the strongest of the Avengers Iron Man is the billionaire playboy who uses technology to be a superhero. without it, he is just an ordinary complete with flaws guy. For me, it is more fun watching the Superheros deal with their problems and also battle other Superheros and there is still a quite a bit of uncovered territory with the Superhero movies. Plus, its easy to add more superheros ie Black Panther ---
**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/198 "2018-06-22T08:39:27Z")
I wasn’t planning on seeing it originally, and went in with low expectations. It wasn’t terrible, but it was the worst Star Wars movie since the prequels. It felt like they had a checklist of “What we know about Han Solo’s backstory”, and were just ticking off boxes. A lot of the references fell flat, and it would have been better to leave some things as mysteries. Some of the subtler references worked better. Ehrenreich was passable as Han, but some of the supporting characters like Glovers Lando were much better. It was ultimately a very forgettable movie. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/199 "2018-06-22T19:55:46Z")
Have you guys heard Lucasfilm is tabling other SW character movies after this failure? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746/200 "2018-06-22T22:20:20Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Have you guys heard Lucasfilm is tabling other SW character movies after this failure? Heard it was a rumor, already denied. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solo-a-star-wars-story-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/814746.md?page=11)