# Solution to Ethics **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 19, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610 "2017-07-19T00:29:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/21 "2017-07-19T06:31:00Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > How do you play the Devil backwards? You haven’t Lived until you play the Devil backards! ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/22 "2017-07-19T09:03:03Z")
I’ve seen this before somewhere. Just trying to hink where. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/23 "2017-07-19T09:22:26Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > If you follow these 8 steps, any female on earth will have sex with you. It’s not a mystery, they are not mysterious. Destroy wealth, and don’t get immediately hurt for doing it. That’s the mating ritual of this species. **Men destroy wealth, women reward them for it. It’s a cold-hearted machine, psychopathic and certain**. > > In terms of heaven and hell. **The male population rightfully observes that only hypo critical, projecting, psychopathic behavior gets sex from women**. Women don’t have this complaint about this behavior getting the most men, the most choice or even a single choice; it’s not present in the female population. It’s also not present in the homosexual population. Only the heterosexual male population is this true. This means, that **in order for a male to not be a hypocrite, they are the only population on earth that is accountable to representing goodness itself in order to not go to hell for getting any resource**. Females and gays have to be sent to heaven because of the female blackmail system; and the incidental phenomenon of gay men not having this occur as well. To get angry at a female for being the way they are; is hypocrisy. Even if they want to “be a man” and try to be good, if a man lets them go through a painful process of becoming a good person, he’s held accountable for being an asshole who got a resource. Females did it to themselves, heterosexual men, to avoid hell, cannot abuse females; they also cannot be hypocrites (they have to build humane suicide for humans - which females see as abusive - that’s the only exception) otherwise they’ll go to hell for it and they cannot let females be hurt in the same way a parent cannot sit and watch a child poke an electrical outlet without intervening. Males have to do all the work before females can be allowed in the “room” so to speak; otherwise the male is sent to hell for it, females have placed men, forced them, into this condition. Men who say this doesn’t exist, are being contradictory; and they will go to hell if the men still doing work, don’t succeed. Bolding mine. You have some very _interesting_ ideas, and I’m under the impression that a few of the folks over at MGTOW and RedPill would _love_ to hear about them (in a pared-down, simplified way that is shorter). Here? Assuming your post actually contains something worth reading, you do such a terrible job of making your ideas approachable that even someone trying _very very hard_ to figure out what you’re talking about, the kind of person who thinks [Meditations on Moloch](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/) makes a lot of sense, struggles to figure out what you’re talking about. The first several paragraphs show little to no understanding of human nature, or indeed what the institutions and feelings you’re criticizing (at least, I _think_ you’re criticizing them) actually are or represent. Somewhere around paragraph 4 I just gave up - barring a few rare cases (heya Sox fans, been watching any Yankees games lately? 😉 ) I’m not happy because the other team lost, I’m happy because my team _won_. The bit before about perpetual motion machines makes even less sense. This board is full of pretty smart people, and there is not a single person here who has posted who thinks what you’re saying makes sense. This should qualify as a red flag. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/24 "2017-07-19T10:06:21Z")
Hi fellow Slate Star Codex fan! The OP is virtually the anti-Scott. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/25 "2017-07-19T10:08:15Z")
> [@lisiate](#): > > Hi fellow Slate Star Codex fan! > > The OP is virtually the anti-Scott. _hi-fives_ ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/26 "2017-07-19T10:32:56Z")
Personally I typically use my ethics in a 5% solution which is good for most applications, but some people dilute them a bit more for safety. I wouldn’t advise diluting less however, as that may lead to identity crises. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/27 "2017-07-19T10:39:48Z")
The frequency is 118.8 MHz. Now leave Kenneth alone. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/28 "2017-07-19T10:55:50Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Did you know you can hear the Devil if you play Stairway to Heaven backwards? > [@Czarcasm](#): > > I always heard it was the other way around. In Hairway to Steven, the Devil hears YOU! ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/29 "2017-07-19T10:59:33Z")
OP, your first post read like a red pill diatribe written by a new age guru, but I could mostly follow it. The second post sounded like one of those experiments where they try to prove post-modern philosophy is nonsense by submitting papers assembled by a computer stringing random buzzwords together and seeing if it gets accepted by a publication. You left lesbians out of your analysis of women’s preferences. The natural world is a horror show of depravity, so if you go full evo-psych then don’t expect to find moral justification for anything that doesn’t benefit the self. For mating strategies, generally the female animal is drab while the male animals are the colorful, sexy ones, or they sing a song, or do a trick, or bring a present, or they’re good at fighting off other guys. If you find yourself unable to keep a woman’s company, ask yourself what you bring to the table. Maybe seek our self improvement. Or not. Mother nature doesn’t care, and the world isn’t running short on people. ---
**Author:** ![Forest\_Green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Forest\_Green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forest_Green)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/30 "2017-07-19T11:39:50Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > OP, your first post read like a red pill diatribe written by a new age guru, but I could mostly follow it. The second post sounded like one of those experiments where they try to prove post-modern philosophy is nonsense by submitting papers assembled by a computer stringing random buzzwords together and seeing if it gets accepted by a publication. > > You left lesbians out of your analysis of women’s preferences. > > The natural world is a horror show of depravity, so if you go full evo-psych then don’t expect to find moral justification for anything that doesn’t benefit the self. For mating strategies, generally the female animal is drab while the male animals are the colorful, sexy ones, or they sing a song, or do a trick, or bring a present, or they’re good at fighting off other guys. If you find yourself unable to keep a woman’s company, ask yourself what you bring to the table. Maybe seek our self improvement. Or not. Mother nature doesn’t care, and the world isn’t running short on people. Evo-psych doesn’t solve that way. Lesbians are women, I said women and gay men are not accountable to morality; there isn’t a complaint in the lesbian community that “bitches” get the most women, just like gays, just like women in the heterosexual population; this is only true in the male heterosexual population. I am natural, I’m nothing close to a horror show of depravity. You are defending a defenseless system, with thick, thick denial about what reality actually is. That’s my assessment. It seems to me, that in order to gain power over your abuser, you have simply taken its form, becoming the thing you hate, I left that ship. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/31 "2017-07-19T11:46:04Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > All beings have three distinct signatures, that are the equivalent of our unique skin grooves - a consciousness signature, a behavioral signature and a compositional signature; the consciousness signature is the one that provides awareness of self and sensory input - the other two signatures deal with everything else; you can effectively gather a bunch of particles together that respond precisely like the being is conscious; even though they are not; such that no matter what you do with or to them; nobody is being hurt; if your entire universe is just you and behavioral or modified behavioral signatures. OK, field this question. What evidence do you have for the existence of any of these “signatures”? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/32 "2017-07-19T11:56:55Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > If you follow these 8 steps, any female on earth will have sex with you. Right - because women are sexual vending machines. You follow the steps and they dispense sex. :rolleyes: Also love your assumption that the reader is male. You know, we do let women read this forum, right? ---
**Author:** ![Forest\_Green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Forest\_Green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forest_Green)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/33 "2017-07-19T11:59:09Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > OK, field this question. What evidence do you have for the existence of any of these “signatures”? I can’t tell you that. I can only tell you that they exist. Don’t believe me. I’m trying to use them appropriately; they can be abused, severely abused. I went to hell for 400 billion years in a time dilated portal messing with this stuff; now I’m back. Almost anything you can possibly imagine, is the way existence works. I’ll tell you that much. Don’t believe me. Not my problem; my problem is now my goal, if I achieve it; you’re more than welcome to explore all of this on your own; to learn everything I have learned. To a large extent, it’s inefficient for me to teach people everything I know in this world system condition. I have to prioritize. Part of that is not explaining how I know this. You folks will laugh. Again, not my problem. I’m paying close attention to people saying my posts are not comprehensible; thinking of easier language. The problem, is that I tried to make it short, assuming this would be good enough. I know it’s a horrible answer to you, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Forest\_Green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Forest\_Green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forest_Green)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/34 "2017-07-19T12:03:25Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Right - because women are sexual vending machines. You follow the steps and they dispense sex. > > :rolleyes: > > Also love your assumption that the reader is male. You know, we do let women read this forum, right? I’m well aware that females can read this, I’m also well aware of compensatory algorithms to maintain denial systems. These steps work, they’re the only thing that does work. Every man who uses them will go to hell for it. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/35 "2017-07-19T12:06:42Z")
> [@](#): > > … you have less purpose to represent for life… What? Who has what now? Purpose to represent for life? What? Represent for life? What? When come back bring …English please! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/36 "2017-07-19T12:13:52Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > I can’t tell you that. I can only tell you that they exist. Don’t believe me. I’m trying to use them appropriately; they can be abused, severely abused. I went to hell for 400 billion years in a time dilated portal messing with this stuff; now I’m back. Next time, check the destination printed on your ticket. Maybe the airline(was it Delta?) will offer at least a partial refund. ---
**Author:** ![Forest\_Green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Forest\_Green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forest_Green)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/37 "2017-07-19T12:19:02Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > What? Who has what now? Purpose to represent for life? What? Represent for life? What? > > When come back bring …English please! If you make it more difficult to commit suicide for people, then you have less purpose to represent for life in order to keep people alive. That was the context, which you misquoted. It’s true by definition. It’s inarguable using referential language. Non-referential language isn’t an argument, so technically, it’s inarguable. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/38 "2017-07-19T12:19:55Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > I can’t tell you that. I can only tell you that they exist. Don’t believe me. I’m trying to use them appropriately; they can be abused, severely abused. I went to hell for 400 billion years in a time dilated portal messing with this stuff; now I’m back. Almost anything you can possibly imagine, is the way existence works. I’ll tell you that much. Don’t believe me. Not my problem; my problem is now my goal, if I achieve it; you’re more than welcome to explore all of this on your own; to learn everything I have learned. To a large extent, it’s inefficient for me to teach people everything I know in this world system condition. I have to prioritize. Part of that is not explaining how I know this. You folks will laugh. Again, not my problem. I’m paying close attention to people saying my posts are not comprehensible; thinking of easier language. The problem, is that I tried to make it short, assuming this would be good enough. I know it’s a horrible answer to you, sorry. Serious question: Are you under the care & following instructions of a medical professional, or do you adjust your own meds? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/39 "2017-07-19T12:24:49Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > I went to hell for 400 billion years in a time dilated portal messing with this stuff; now I’m back. Can you tell us more about this journey? Was it in a phone booth that looked smaller from outside it? Did you meet anyone in hell? If so, who did you meet? What did they say? How did you respond? Did you high-five Satan? Did you kick Hitler in the balls? Did they have pie? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610/40 "2017-07-19T12:28:56Z")
> [@Forest\_Green](#): > > I went to hell for 400 billion years in a time dilated portal messing with this stuff; now I’m back.\* You were in a hell that was much older that the universe, stayed there for 29 times that age of the universe and did not figure out how to express your ideas clearly? That is a shame. > [@Forest\_Green](#): > > I’m going to educate you folks. I suspect not. Wild assertions unsupported by evidence are rarely well received in this forum and you are unlikely to “educate” anyone based on what you have posted so far. \*And now I’m back to let you know I can really shake 'em down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/solution-to-ethics/791610.md?page=3)