# "Some blacks are just dumb and enjoy killing each other" - no warning issued, Tom?

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**Created:** [August 13, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511 "2018-08-13T08:18:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/161 "2018-08-16T06:26:50Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Yes, Ivory is female but Ellen Cherry isn’t what I’d call active and Tuba isn’t really a mod.

Admins have all the mod powers, I don’t see why they shouldn’t count.

And I’ve been going by what’s listed, especially for the forums I don’t particularly read a lot of. If someone’s listed as a current mod, they’re correctly counted as a mod for statements like “more mods are female than PoC” as far as I’m concerned.

So I make the current ratio _3_ to 1. My statement stands.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/162 "2018-08-16T08:47:35Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> …  
> It’s not a political belief. That’s also not what Tom said.  
> …

Thank you. It was not my intention to imply that Tom said otherwise.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/163 "2018-08-16T10:41:00Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Admins have all the mod powers, I don’t see why they shouldn’t count.
> 
> And I’ve been going by what’s listed, especially for the forums I don’t particularly read a lot of. If someone’s listed as a current mod, they’re correctly counted as a mod for statements like “more mods are female than PoC” as far as I’m concerned.
> 
> So I make the current ratio _3_ to 1. My statement stands.

I’m not positive about the ethnic makeup of all my other mods, but I believe your statement to be true.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/164 "2018-08-16T11:18:34Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> People with racist beliefs have changed and renounced those beliefs. That alone is evidence that people can be swayed. I’m sure there are people that can not be swayed, but if we terminate all discussion on distasteful topics we deprive ourselves of the opportunity.

Maybe it’s just me, but I do not want to interact with racists or pedophiles. Feeding them into a wood chipper would be fine with me.

The previous [del] **Cicero** [/del] (who was the pedo that was allowed here?) debacle nearly chased me away. Coddling misogynists has chased off many posters. Now this. Jesus Christ people.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/165 "2018-08-16T11:26:35Z")

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Yeah. I used to have the “let’s debate for readers” attitude, but I’ve seen precious little evidence that this attitude is grounded in, y’know, _evidence_.

People come around with that bullshit? At the very least, a warning.

**Bone** , I think your logic about warnings vs. notes vs. bannings for low-post trolls is flawed. You seem to suggest that no warning is given because if it’s a warning it’s for trolling, in which case a banning is called for.

**No it’s not.** That might be a tradition, but if it leads to a warnable post like this not getting a warning, it’s a bad tradition. If you don’t want to ban the guy for trolling, **don’t ban him for trolling**. Just give the warning instead.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/166 "2018-08-16T12:46:58Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> The previous [del] **Cicero** [/del]

Caesario.

Boy, do I still regret that whole thing. Taught me a valuable lesson about taking tolerance too far.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/167 "2018-08-16T12:51:39Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> The previous [del] **Cicero** [/del] (who was the pedo that was allowed here?) debacle nearly chased me away.

**Cesario** ; I still have him on my ignore list since I never bothered to remove him.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?u=85438](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/168 "2018-08-16T12:59:00Z")

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Thanks guys, and apologies to **Cicero**.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/169 "2018-08-16T13:27:47Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> I almost banned for trolling - this was not a unique view among the moderation team. It could have gone either way. To me, that’s the reason for lack of warning. If it’s a warning for trolling, then it’s a banning for a poster with such few posts, typically. I don’t think we were at that point yet, so here we are and time will tell.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> **Bone** , I think your logic about warnings vs. notes vs. bannings for low-post trolls is flawed. You seem to suggest that no warning is given because if it’s a warning it’s for trolling, in which case a banning is called for.
> 
> **No it’s not.** That might be a tradition, but if it leads to a warnable post like this not getting a warning, it’s a bad tradition. If you don’t want to ban the guy for trolling, **don’t ban him for trolling**. Just give the warning instead.

I agree. Seems like an unnecessary constraint on the moderators. Especially since it results in no record in the system of the moderating action. Why limit yourselves to “ban” or “no warning issued”?

At this point, though, I don’t expect the mods to go back and change things for the post in question. Something to think about going forward.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/170 "2018-08-16T14:31:20Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Then I think we disagree on what qualifies as a rational basis, because I don’t have a problem with that notion.

In the context of this exchange, what do you think of [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860541)?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/171 "2018-08-16T14:41:51Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> In the context of this exchange, what do you think of [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860541)?

With my understanding that the thread is asking why, in a broad sense, conservatives and especially conservative media figures tend to strongly oppose public policy meant to combat climate change, I think it’s an interesting topic and I’m not sure the relevance here.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/172 "2018-08-16T14:56:11Z")

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If you look at the suggested reasons offered by posters in that thread, they seem like exactly the type of broad-brushing that you’re professing here to be opposed to.

[BTW, your description of the thread is not accurate. It’s not about why conservatives “tend to strongly oppose public policy meant to combat climate change”, it’s about why they tend to deny the science supporting climate change.]

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/173 "2018-08-16T15:28:23Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> If you look at the suggested reasons offered by posters in that thread, they seem like exactly the type of broad-brushing that you’re professing here to be opposed to.

I haven’t read every post, but I wouldn’t be surprised – I see such broad-brushing very frequently (and occasionally criticize it).

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**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/174 "2018-08-16T16:29:12Z")

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> [@Amara\_1](#):
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> When I first read this, I thought it was a parody. Comparing racism to political ideology _especially in today’s environment_ where the President of the US supports racism, hate crimes (where people are attacked and killed for the color of their skin and perceived religion) are on the rise and white supremacists openly march and celebrate the Presidency is a false equivalency and not a good look for this message board.\*\* Frankly, it’s openly insulting to me and I suspect other folks on this board. But then again since most of those offended aren’t white then who cares.\*\*
> 
> Racism isn’t a logical decision and trying to counter it with rational arguments generally doesn’t work. It’s a hateful viewpoint and “debating” the intelligence and basic humanity of those who aren’t white isn’t a political disagreement or grounds for a debate. It’s openly agreeing that hateful speech is accepted so long as the targets are minorities. Similar viewpoints expressed against white people are, IMHO, more modded partially because more people get upset. This isn’t even-handed. There simply isn’t a comparison between an attack on something a person because of their skin color and because of their political identification.
> 
> The entire justification of not providing a warning here (long time poster! low post count! Bending over backwards to provide an alternate explanation!)provides an appearance that racism is coddled and excused. This chases people away as it should.

(emphasis mine, but _overall_ very thought-provoking.) It is posts like this make me seriously wish there was a like button here because I don’t really want to participate. I’ll hesitantly add this: political affiliation is becoming the _new_ religion.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/175 "2018-08-16T16:34:22Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I agree. Seems like an unnecessary constraint on the moderators. Especially since it results in no record in the system of the moderating action. Why limit yourselves to “ban” or “no warning issued”?

The record exists, though informally. This discussion, as well as mod loop discussion, ensures that aspect.

It’s not a real constraint, but a logical one. If someone trolls from the get go, we ban them. If the assessment is made that someone is trolling and a warning is given, I’d be hard pressed to not execute a ban. For what reason would we not ban? Anyways, like I said, I read the post and re-read it because it gave me pause in how jarring it was, but I think it’s clear what the thought process was.

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**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/176 "2018-08-16T20:03:18Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> This is an excellent post.
> 
> I feel like it’s the sexism issue all over again where there’s so much willful ignorance and whataboutism. \*\*However, the difference is that the mods were open to our suggestions and opinions, for which I’m still grateful. \*\*I don’t understand this passive-aggressive weasel-wording basically implying acceptance of racism now. I’m disgusted, quite frankly, and it’s time for me to make another temporary flounce.

(emphasis mine)

This mirrors real-life if you think about it.

Take it from here, Robin.

(emphasis mine)

> [@Robin DiAngelo](#):
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> Take women’s suffrage. If being a woman denies you the right to vote, you ipso facto cannot grant it to yourself. And you certainly cannot vote for your right to vote.\*\* If men control all the mechanisms that exclude women from voting as well as the mechanisms that can reverse that exclusion, women must call on men for justice\*\*. You could not have had a conversation about women’s right to vote and men’s need to grant it without naming women and men. Not naming the groups that face barriers only serves those who already have access; the assumption is that the access enjoyed by the controlling group is universal. For example, although we are taught that women were granted suffrage in 1920, we ignore the fact that it was white women who received full access or that it was white men who granted it. Not until the 1960s, through the Voting Rights Act, were all women—regardless of race—granted full access to suffrage. Naming who has access and who doesn’t guides our efforts in challenging injustice.

Upshot? Things will change when the white folks here want it to change.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/177 "2018-08-16T20:07:42Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> The record exists, though informally. This discussion, as well as mod loop discussion, ensures that aspect.
> 
> It’s not a real constraint, but a logical one. If someone trolls from the get go, we ban them. If the assessment is made that someone is trolling and a warning is given, I’d be hard pressed to not execute a ban. For what reason would we not ban? Anyways, like I said, I read the post and re-read it because it gave me pause in how jarring it was, but I think it’s clear what the thought process was.

I’ve just read the thread through from beginning to end, and the moderator thinking on this matter is, quite frankly, risible in its level of analysis and consistency.

I’m not sure an insta-ban was necessary, but I simply don’t understand why that post didn’t get a warning. Every argument offered in defense of the moderation here just seems like sophistry. Perhaps the most mind-boggling is **tomndebb** ’s hilarious effort to equate racial supremacism with political ideology.

There seems to be some sort of belief that you can’t give the guy a warning for trolling, because then you’d have to ban him, or something. At least, that’s what you imply here when you say that " If the assessment is made that someone is trolling and a warning is given, I’d be hard pressed to not execute a ban. For what reason would we not ban?" This seems to strongly suggest that trolling is worthy of banning, but not a warning.

And yet there have been dozens of warnings on this board for trolling. Want some examples?

> [@Spice Weasel](#):
>
> After discussion with other moderators, you are being given an official warning for trolling. This is your third warning since October (though one was retracted.) I’d advise you think very seriously about future posts before you make them.
> 
> Do not start another thread on this topic again.
> 
> Thread closed (again.)

[Link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20753463) (because thread was closed, so no quote function)

> [@DACA/Dreamer hypothetical (would you take a "fugitive" Dreamer into your home?)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daca-dreamer-hypothetical-would-you-take-a-fugitive-dreamer-into-your-home/795595/149):
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> If this was supposed to be a joke, it’s a very, very poor attempt at one. And if it wasn’t supposed to be a joke…
> 
> Either way, warning issued for trolling.

> [@Why do police not show up in court for traffic cases?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-police-not-show-up-in-court-for-traffic-cases/810490/34):
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> **Moderator Warning**
> 
> **jtur88** , professional jabs are not permitted in General Questions. In addition, this is nasty enough to constitute trolling. This is an official warning. Do not do this again.
> 
> Colibri  
> General Questions Moderator

> [@In My Humble Opinion, Trump has made even children into racist scumbags.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/191):
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> [Moderating]  
> The problem you got here, **Clothahump** , is that you’ve [previously admitted to trolling on this precise point](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19946433), and [were suspended for it](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=817278&highlight).
> 
> So, this is a warning for trolling. Again. We’ll be discussing your posting privileges in the mod loop.  
> [/Moderating]

> [@Run through the jungle: CA primaries tomorrow (6/5)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/run-through-the-jungle-ca-primaries-tomorrow-6-5/815409/10):
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> This is a warning for being a jerk, but it could easily have been for trolling. Typically we allow derogatory comments or insults to off board persons, and even moreso in the Pit. This isn’t however, free reign to unleash uncreative and pedestrian misogyny. Seriously, calling her a “Ho”? Are you 12 years old. Knock that shit off.
> 
> [/moderating]

> [@What event might cause a "temporary" use of martial law by the US Federal Government](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-event-might-cause-a-temporary-use-of-martial-law-by-the-us-federal-government/819034/35):
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> **Moderator Warning**
> 
> **Jasmine** , you’ve been noted and warned for political potshots before so you know this is against the rules. And the last sentence is basically trolling. This is an official warning. If you continue this behavior, you will find your posting privileges under review.
> 
> Colibri  
> General Questions Moderator

> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
>
> This is an official warning for trolling. Do not do this again in ATMB.

[Link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21011072)

And as you said yourself, barely a month ago:

> [@Bone](#):
>
> As an FYI, as far as using the warning more than once in a blue moon - warnings for trolling are the 4th most issued warning on the boards, though by a distant margin.

[Link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21079437#post21079437)

This whole situation reflects pretty poorly on the Board and its moderators. And LOL at the “But there are anti-white racists too!!!” crowd.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/178 "2018-08-16T20:10:20Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I’ve just read the thread through from beginning to end, and the moderator thinking on this matter is, quite frankly, risible in its level of analysis and consistency.
> 
> I’m not sure an insta-ban was necessary, but I simply don’t understand why that post didn’t get a warning. Every argument offered in defense of the moderation here just seems like sophistry. Perhaps the most mind-boggling is **tomndebb** ’s hilarious effort to equate racial supremacism with political ideology.

Yes, I concur. Ok, I was perhaps over-reacting on the insta-ban.

But I have not seen a argument why this should not be a warning.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-blacks-are-just-dumb-and-enjoy-killing-each-other-no-warning-issued-tom/819511/179 "2018-08-16T20:12:27Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
>
> I’ve just read the thread through from beginning to end, and the moderator thinking on this matter is, quite frankly, risible in its level of analysis and consistency.
> 
> I’m not sure an insta-ban was necessary, but I simply don’t understand why that post didn’t get a warning. Every argument offered in defense of the moderation here just seems like sophistry. Perhaps the most mind-boggling is **tomndebb** ’s hilarious effort to equate racial supremacism with political ideology.
> 
> There seems to be some sort of belief that you can’t give the guy a warning for trolling, because then you’d have to ban him, or something. At least, that’s what you imply here when you say that " If the assessment is made that someone is trolling and a warning is given, I’d be hard pressed to not execute a ban. For what reason would we not ban?" This seems to strongly suggest that trolling is worthy of banning, but not a warning.
> 
> And yet there have been dozens of warnings on this board for trolling. Want some examples?[Link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20753463) (because thread was closed, so no quote function)
> 
> [Link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21011072)
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> And as you said yourself, barely a month ago:[Link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21079437#post21079437)
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> This whole situation reflects pretty poorly on the Board and its moderators. And LOL at the “But there are anti-white racists too!!!” crowd.

I agree. Very poor moderation, and just a pathetic justification. And as has been shown, not consistent with past moderation.

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Perhaps the most mind-boggling is **tomndebb** ’s hilarious effort to equate racial supremacism with political ideology.

Awhile ago we had a poster on this board who peppered conversations with statements like, “Republicans hate women,” and, “Conservatives want brown people to die.” For awhile the mods told us we had to refute him civilly and with facts.

But eventually they told him to knock it the fuck off.

Mods, do you regret this decision? Would you give a different instruction to someone else who came to the boards with objectively incorrect, highly-insulting, stereotypical claims about a political ideology? Or do you think–as I do–that it was exactly the right call?

If you agree with me, can you explain why making objectively incorrect, highly insulting, stereotypical claims about a racial/ethnic group is **less** deleterious to board culture?

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