# Some celebrity is revealed to be an asshole. Who surprises/saddens you most?

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**Created:** [June 16, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644 "2011-06-16T01:42:16Z")\
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Most surprised? I’d have to say the Dalai Lama.

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Tom Wolfe. My favorite mainstream writer, in every interview I have ever seen/heard of him he has the kindest, friendliest and most gentlemanly manner. Though his writing may be relentlessly snarky, he seems to be an extremely likeable guy. I think he would _have_ to be, in order to get close to the thousands of different people he has interviewed and shadowed as part of his journalistic writing.

If he turned out to be a prick, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy his writing in the same way.

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Does the celebrity have to be alive?
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> If yes, then Gordon Matthew Thomas Sumner (aka Sting).

Seriously? Sting is a huge asshole. Yeah, he’s got other good qualities that make him a worthwhile human being, but that doesn’t mean he’s not also an asshole. Or to put it another way, ask Andy Summers and Steward Copeland if Sting is an asshole.

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Wil Wheaton. He just seems like a generally cool, laid-back guy. Also Ken Jennings, the Jeopardy guy.

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Weird Al, Stephen King, or Mike Rowe.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/26 "2011-06-16T15:50:06Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> On the obverse, I would be disappointed to learn that Jack Nicholson is a really nice, quiet guy and that the public persona is all an act.

I’m sorry to disappoint you but I met him once while he was shopping at a market in New York, and he was a really nice, quiet guy in person.

> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Seriously? Sting is a huge asshole. Yeah, he’s got other good qualities that make him a worthwhile human being, but that doesn’t mean he’s not also an asshole. Or to put it another way, ask Andy Summers and Steward Copeland if Sting is an asshole.

Ditto! They don’t call him Mr. Serious for nothing either!

> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Wil Wheaton. He just seems like a generally cool, laid-back guy. Also Ken Jennings, the Jeopardy guy.

Wow! Wil “Weinie” Wheaton cool? :eek:

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Nathan Fillion. I love his work as an actor and I follow him on Twitter (Wil too) and he seems to be a really nice guy.

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Jon Stewart for me too. And Colbert and Hodgman too.

> [@JoseArcadio](#):
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> Michael Palin. He seems like pretty much the nicest man on the planet.

I’ve met him briefly in passing. On the basis of that and pretty much everything I’ve read about him by anyone who has worked with him, he is unrelentingly nice. If he secretly murders kittens in the privacy of his own home he’s good at keeping it quiet.

Eric Idle, however, is a bit of an arrogant bastard. An extremely funny bastard, I grant you, but a bastard nonetheless.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/29 "2011-06-16T15:56:39Z")

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Gwyneth Paltrow. Maybe she’s a complete bitch in real life, but that’s an illusion I don;t want shattered.

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Oliver Platt. He seems so nice. That opinion was reinforced when I saw him outside the theater of a play he was doing in NY and he gave me the nicest smile in return for my smile at him.

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Wow! Wil “Weinie” Wheaton cool? :eek:

Yep. [He’s come a long way since his Wesley Crusher days.](http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/)

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Nathan Lane. For some inexplicable reason, every time I see him on tv I just want to give him a big ol’ bear hug.

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Tom Hanks.

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I would be surprised at this but I would be really shocked if Seth MacFarlane isn’t an opinionated a-hole who can’t have a good healthy “agree to disagree” argument.

Now I love Seth’s work and I think he’s great at what he does, and I would love to have a beer with him and talk about things…but I would be surprised if he wasn’t a stubborn bull over his opinions and not take mine in stride.

Kind of a weird scenario I know…but I would love to have a conversation with him and would be surprised if it would work

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> [@JoseArcadio](#):
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> Michael Palin. He seems like pretty much the nicest man on the planet.

Excellent example. I wouldn’t have thought of him.

Have you read his diaries, published a year or two ago? It’s wonderful reading.

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Aisha Tyler.  
She seems really cool and funny, not to mention drop-dead gorgeous, and I’ve had a couple of short back-and-forths with her on Facebook, so I like to believe she’s down-to-earth and accessible.  
I’d be bummed if I found out otherwise.

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I try pretty hard to stay rational about celebrities. I tell myself, “You don’t really know these people. The ones you hate may be decent people and the ones you love may be jerks.” So, I’m rarely shocked or hurt when a celeb or politician I admire turns out to be a slimeball.

But no matter how rational I try to be, there are still a few people I’d be very disappointed to hear bad things about.

Ron Guidry is at the top of that list, right ahead of the late Harmon Killebrew.

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Dave Grohl, who seems goofy and remarkably sane for a rock star.

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Gwyneth Paltrow. Maybe she’s a complete bitch in real life, but that’s an illusion I don;t want shattered.

WTF? Have you ever read her newsletter? She comes off as the most spoiled, let-them-eat-cake celebrity I can think of, and doesn’t even seem aware enough to realize it.

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> Nathan Lane. For some inexplicable reason, every time I see him on tv I just want to give him a big ol’ bear hug.

He has held the door for me twice once at John’s Pizzeria and once at Ollie’s. His voice was the same but 100 decibels lower in volume. At Ollie’s he even insisted that we be seated first. So I can say that he seems to be just a very nice guy and that was in NY. Only half of my group recognized him either time so he certainly wasn’t drawing any attention to himself.

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