# Some celebrity is revealed to be an asshole. Who surprises/saddens you most?

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**Created:** [June 16, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644 "2011-06-16T01:42:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/61 "2011-06-17T03:35:53Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Tom Hanks.

Surprised I’m the 1st person to agree with this.

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**Author:** ![Suil\_Dubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Suil\_Dubh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suil_Dubh)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/62 "2011-06-17T03:49:46Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> I’d be truly disappointed if I found Lemmy from Motörhead to be a pretentious dick. (Of course, he’s very recognizable, so I probably wouldn’t go up to him in the street, but say I’d have an appointment or a beer with him or whatever.) Anyone seen Lemmy the Movie? That guy just seems so laid back.

Over the years I’ve heard so many anecdotes of him being such a genuinely nice guy to everyone, fans included, that I think jerkish behavior from Lemmy is in the realm of the impossible.

I get the impression he was a bit “wilder” in his youth, so he may not have been the nicest guy 40 years ago, but he’s spent the past 30 or so being surprisingly pleasant to people.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/63 "2011-06-17T03:50:34Z")

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The Trump.

I’m _still_ reeling.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/64 "2011-06-17T03:58:31Z")

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Robert Blake. **Baretta** was the coolest, and who could be more grounded than the Blakester?

He _what_? Oh.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/65 "2011-06-17T03:59:37Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> The Trump.
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> I’m _still_ reeling.

No forgiveness, because he has sculpted the media to every perverse capitalist ideal, in his rat covered dome.

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**Author:** ![FoundWaldo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@FoundWaldo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoundWaldo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/66 "2011-06-17T04:07:53Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> WTF? Have you ever read her newsletter? She comes off as the most spoiled, let-them-eat-cake celebrity I can think of, and doesn’t even seem aware enough to realize it.

WTF? I read every one of her newsletters and I don’t get that sense at all. I guess that means I’m a spoiled celebrity too.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/67 "2011-06-17T04:50:01Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> Nathan Lane. For some inexplicable reason, every time I see him on tv I just want to give him a big ol’ bear hug.

A friend who worked with him for several years in New York said that he was a very kind man, a gentleman, but when he was in his cups, he could be meanspirited and putzy. But apparently he’s stopped drinking (or at least to excess) which is a good thing.

I agree that Tom Hanks would be a huge disappointment. I also agree that Gwyneth Paltrow is very self-absorbed. I wouldn’t say she’s an asshole or anything, but very much the product of a lifetime of privilege and money who doesn’t seem very cognizant of mundane things.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/68 "2011-06-17T04:52:16Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Ellen DeGeneres. I can’t imagine her doing something awful, and I would be devastated to learn the details if she did.

You may want to sit down for this…

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/69 "2011-06-17T04:55:58Z")

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> [@SecondJudith](#):
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> I think Bill Gates, or some other committed charitable giver.
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> [@ministryman](#):
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> Bill Gates? Seriously? He _is_ an asshole. Don’t let the charitable giving fool you…

Yeah, I’ve heard lots of bad things about Bill Gates.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/70 "2011-06-17T05:20:02Z")

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Never heard a thing, good or bad, about Steve Buscemi’s personal life, but I imagine him to be a really nice guy and I would be disappointed to hear differently.

No one’s mentioned either Andy or Opie? Ron Howard and Andy Griffith – I’ve never heard an angry word directed to or from either of them. Hope that stays true.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/71 "2011-06-17T09:33:42Z")

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Weird Al doesn’t even seem to realize he’s a popular rockstar/singer. He doesn’t drink, or smoke, do drugs or anything else many famous people do. I recall reading an article about the one time his band made him get drunk, and they said they’d “never do THAT again!” but didn’t specify why.

Julia Louis-Dreyfus would surprise me if it were found she likes beating puppies in her spare time. Nary a word about her in the news. She even comes from a billionaire family, so you’d almost expect her to be some kind of Paris Hiltone-sque cum-filled coke whore, but no.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/72 "2011-06-17T13:11:18Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Ron Guidry is at the top of that list, right ahead of the late Harmon Killebrew.

Gator! I never expected to see his name in this thread (not because I ever heard anything bad about him, but just because I didn’t think he was on anyone’s radar anymore.) He was one of my favorite players when I was a kid (I was 11 for the '78 season.) I spoke to him briefly outside Yankee Stadium once and he was very friendly. Reggie Jackson, on the other hand…

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/73 "2011-06-17T13:20:01Z")

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Dittoing the disappointment in Joe Strummer. Seems like he was actually quite a jackass.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/74 "2011-06-17T13:39:21Z")

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I’d be very surprised to hear bad news about Allyson Hannigan. She just seems like she would be too busy thinking about kittens to be a bitch.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/75 "2011-06-17T14:05:18Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> You may want to sit down for this…

What? WHAT???:eek:

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/76 "2011-06-17T15:53:59Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Gator! I never expected to see his name in this thread (not because I ever heard anything bad about him, but just because I didn’t think he was on anyone’s radar anymore.) He was one of my favorite players when I was a kid (I was 11 for the '78 season.) I spoke to him briefly outside Yankee Stadium once and he was very friendly. Reggie Jackson, on the other hand…

Back in the Seventies, MOST of the Yankees were very standoffish toward fans, and Guidry was about the ONLY one I ever saw signing autographs. he was very generous about that.

In fact, the only other person affiliated with the Yankees who didn’t mind signing autographs was Dom Scala, the bullpen catcher (who wasn’t even a member of the team). Sparky Lyle would give fans the bird, Goose Gossage would pretend he didn’t hear the fans, but Dom Scala would sign anything with a smile, and a kid would go away happy.

Look, I KNOW fans can be a royal pain. But it wouldn’t have been any harder for Lyle or Gossage to sign a few autographs than it was for Dom Scala!

Anyway, Guidry always SEEEMED like a great guy as well as a great pitcher. I’d be disappointed if he turned out not to be the guy I thought he was.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/77 "2011-06-17T16:08:34Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Never heard a thing, good or bad, about Steve Buscemi’s personal life, but I imagine him to be a really nice guy and I would be disappointed to hear differently.
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> No one’s mentioned either Andy or Opie? Ron Howard and Andy Griffith – I’ve never heard an angry word directed to or from either of them. Hope that stays true.

If you haven’t seen [A Face in the Crowd (1957)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050371/) you might be persuaded that Andy has a little more than great acting chops to work with. That said, I can’t provide any real life examples to support the idea, but I did get great amusement from the clips on YouTube like [Archive of American TV…: Andy Griffith Interview Selections - EMMYTVLEGENDS.ORG](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKYinPqFFXk) where he demonstates a remarkable savvy and earthiness. Follow the links in the clip to even more good stuff.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/78 "2011-06-17T16:09:41Z")

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The Rock really seems like a good person, my innate sense of other peoples character would need a serious tuneup if he was not.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-celebrity-is-revealed-to-be-an-asshole-who-surprises-saddens-you-most/585644/79 "2011-06-17T16:31:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Boyo Jim]

No one’s mentioned either Andy or Opie? Ron Howard and Andy Griffith – I’ve never heard an angry word directed to or from either of them. Hope that stays true.  
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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
If you haven’t seen A Face in the Crowd (1957) you might be persuaded that Andy has a little more than great acting chops to work with. That said, I can’t provide any real life examples to support the idea, but I did get great amusement from the clips on YouTube like Archive of American TV…: Andy Griffith Interview Selections - [EMMYTVLEGENDS.ORG](http://EMMYTVLEGENDS.ORG) where he demonstates a remarkable savvy and earthiness. Follow the links in the clip to even more good stuff.  
[/quote]

Older Andy, maybe, but apparently, younger Andy had quite the temper (as stated by Griffith himself and touched on by George ‘Goober’ Lindsey in his autobiography) and could be asshole-ish.

I’d agree with Nathan Fillion, The Rock, and Steve Buscemi and also add Seth Rogan and Nick Searcy.

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> [@markm](#):
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> Older Andy, maybe, but apparently, younger Andy had quite the temper (as stated by Griffith himself and touched on by George ‘Goober’ Lindsey in his autobiography) and could be asshole-ish.

FWIW, I think I remember reading that for whatever reasons, Frances Bavier (Aunt Bee) openly hated AG.

Edit: Which of course hardly suggests he was an “asshole.”

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