# Some facts about Adolf Hitler, WW2 and Soviet Union **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2015, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691 "2015-11-27T06:53:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/21 "2015-11-27T11:20:08Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > **1) Which of these reasons do you consider the Holocaust an indisputable fact?** > All of the above. All of the above and another you forgot : as you trust your father, so do I trust mine. He saw Jews being executed as soon as they arrived to the concentration camp where he himself was detained by the enlightened nazis (and that wasn’t an extermination camp, just a regular concentration camp where the death rate was only in a reasonable 30%-50% range. The executions of Jews were just an extra). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/22 "2015-11-27T11:24:25Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > LMAO The british government, manipulated by forces beyond, preferred to destroy the last bastion of the west instead of joining the same. The result: British Empire ended the war ruined economically, owned by Uncle Sam, losing one by one their colonial possessions. > […] > Today french and english reap the fruits of his ‘great victory’, with nuslims occupying and burning their cities and raping their women. Great job, Churchill, turned his empire in a second-rate power! Patton was the one who knew the truth on the Allied side. oh it was time to get out of the colony business anyways. Anyhow France, Great Britian and Germany are all well off countries nowadays. If you can’t enjoy that then have fun dying as a bitter old man like your grandpa because some fantasy Germany didn’t come true. Don’t say I didn’t try to help you! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/23 "2015-11-27T11:45:11Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Known fraud. Anyone who accepts this as evidence of anything is using corrupted propaganda. > [@NIBIRU](#): > > Germans and austrians dealt with the same ethnic and culturally, So what? “Germany” was a fiction of Bismarck that did not even include Austria. “Germany” was only 50 years old at the end of WWI and had no more need to be treated as a single nation than any other cobbled together system of principalities. Austria had never been united with Germany prior to 1938. > [@NIBIRU](#): > > The attack on Poland on September 1, 1939 was fully justified. Polish stolen german territories in Versailles (Danzig and other areas that connected East Prussia to the rest of the Reich) and of course Hitler demanded that these be returned. False. Danzig was removed from direct German control after WWI, but it was never given to Poland, being set up as Free City with its own German government, (that began persecuting Jews in 1933). The only relationship between Danzig and Poland was a commercial union that did not require an attack to change. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/24 "2015-11-27T12:01:22Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > oh it was time to get out of the colony business anyways. Anyhow France, Great Britian and Germany are all well off countries nowadays. If you can’t enjoy that then have fun dying as a bitter old man like your grandpa because some fantasy Germany didn’t come true. Don’t say I didn’t try to help you! Yes, yes, a people giving up a living space to be self-sufuciente in food and resources is very intelligent as far as the lion grants territory to deer and according to natural selection. The good jew thinks so, traitors too. If you call ‘living well’ when a country sees prostituted to international financial interests and bankers without sovereignty and following orders dictated by others, you need to review their concepts. > [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > I believe because of the massive amounts of incontrovertible evidence. Incontestable as i had mentioned: planted documents and evidence, manipulated or without context photos, confessions obtained under torture, advantageous testimonies ($$$) or coercive, etc. > [@tomndebb](#): > > Known fraud. Anyone who accepts this as evidence of anything is using corrupted propaganda. LMAO. Known by whom? Hitler expounded about it in Mein Kampf, since that time some said that it was a fraud, however, anyone who observed the events in the last two centuries can see that all that is described is occurring systematically. It is intellectual dishonesty to deny the facts. Henry Ford also talks about that in his book ‘The International Jew’. Curiously enough, the media dominated by them that say this is a farce. A ‘conspiracy theory’ that clearly has been meeting over the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The power of Zionism is a fact, just observe the rule that they play in the financial system (where enslave), media (where alienate) and academic (where create fake pseudo scientific truths). Obviously the academic and media systems they control to repeat a thousand times that it is a scam. If it were of interest to them also say that Santa Claus exists, which any person of common sense would know to be untrue. Just read and compare with the reality that happens. Who discredits is, of the two, one: innocent or malicious. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. > [@tomndebb](#): > > So what? “Germany” was a fiction of Bismarck that did not even include Austria. “Germany” was only 50 years old at the end of WWI and had no more need to be treated as a single nation than any other cobbled together system of principalities. Austria had never been united with Germany prior to 1938. Again: Germans and austrians dealt with the same ethnic and culturally, so truth is that after the end of WWI, the country was passed calling German Republic of Austria (Republik Deutschösterreich), and even earlier, when he still was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, there were already several pan germanists movements on both sides, which sought to Austria, german portion of the aforementioned empire, was incorporated into the german Reich, the most prominent of these movements that led by Georg von Schonerer. T\*\*he ‘be german’ goes far beyond than simply born in the german state, it means being racially germanic, and the former Germania, who confronted the Roman Empire encompassed the territories in what is now Austria. \*\*Then in 1938, is the Anschluss, finally presenting the opportunity for the germans from Germany and Austria avalizassem their marriage via referendum, with over 99% approval on both sides, at which Austria became the province of Ostmark. **The germans of Germany considered austrians as germans, and Austrians considered themselves Germans, very simple. My grandfather was austrian and considered himself german.** > [@tomndebb](#): > > False. Danzig was removed from direct German control after WWI, but it was never given to Poland, being set up as Free City with its own German government, (that began persecuting Jews in 1933). The only relationship between Danzig and Poland was a commercial union that did not require an attack to change. You know that Poland which was with the taxes collected in Danzig and controlled cop force, right? Patrick Buchanan explains this in his book. And that does not negate the fact that the rest of the territory linking Germany to East Prussia have been STOLEN by poles. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/25 "2015-11-27T12:07:43Z")
As Hitler explains in Mein Kampf, the german Reich, the people and the Hohenzollern, they believed that the Habsburgs kept Austria as a germanic state, did not know what was being transformed into a country increasingly slavic, as denounced the pangermanists movements, so did nothing. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/26 "2015-11-27T12:24:59Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > **1) Which of these reasons do you consider the Holocaust an indisputable fact?** For the same reason I consider a flat Earth, the Moon landings were filmed on a sound stage at Area 51-A and 9/11 was perpetrated by the CIA as part of a Zionist conspiracy to be an indisputable fact I’ve actually been to the theme park the Poles built at Auschwitz / Birkenau. It was part of my Zionist indoctrination in Hebrew School Because I am not suffering from mental illness Because the Nazi’s took a lot of notes > [@NIBIRU](#): > > Yes, yes, a people giving up a living space to be self-sufuciente in food and resources is very intelligent as far as the lion grants territory to deer and according to natural selection. You spelled “Lebensraum” wrong. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/27 "2015-11-27T12:40:42Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > For the same reason I consider a flat Earth, the Moon landings were filmed on a sound stage at Area 51-A and 9/11 was perpetrated by the CIA as part of a Zionist conspiracy to be an indisputable fact Create a false relationship with conspiracy theories has a name: fallacy, false analogy. Ridiculous trying to establish relationship between conspiracy theories with an event that can be refuted by simple technical and logical arguments. > [@msmith537](#): > > I’ve actually been to the theme park the Poles built at Auschwitz / Birkenau. Common prison camps modified in the post war. The same as Fred Leuchter, the biggest expert gas chambers in US, claims as impossible has been used for the purposes presented. Remembering that even Jews like Norman Finkelstein and David Cole, believe in the Holocaust, as you believe blindly. > [@msmith537](#): > > It was part of my Zionist indoctrination in Hebrew School > > Because I am not suffering from mental illness Maybe > [@msmith537](#): > > Because the Nazi’s took a lot of notes Very conveniently ‘found’ by the Allies. LMAO The same kind of ‘proof’ that served to blame the Germans for decades the Katyn Massacre. > [@msmith537](#): > > You spelled “Lebensraum” wrong. Would not see the problem, the people who do not forge to hammer not the right to complain when it becomes the anvil. Still, if this were true, there would be so many Slavs fighting voluntarily in german army to overthrow Stalin, aimed at the Vlasov army, ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/28 "2015-11-27T12:42:31Z")
To quote Eddie Izzard: > [@](#): > > And Hitler ended up in a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire. > > So that’s fun. > > I think that’s funny. Cos he was a mass-murdering fuckhead. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/29 "2015-11-27T12:45:59Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > Yes, yes, a people giving up a living space to be self-sufuciente in food and resources is very intelligent as far as the lion grants territory to deer and according to natural selection. The good jew thinks so, traitors too. If you call ‘living well’ when a country sees prostituted to international financial interests and bankers without sovereignty and following orders dictated by others, you need to review their concepts. You didn’t “give up” anything. It was taken because your grandpa stole something he had no right and no power to hold. Instead the Allies set you up to succeed with what you had and succeed you did, a few malcontents like your grandpa and you excepted. History shows you are not the lion you imagine. Quote little factoids all day long, but the reality is all around you. ---
**Author:** ![Found\_In\_Translation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@Found\_In\_Translation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Found_In_Translation)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/30 "2015-11-27T12:47:33Z")
BTW, this diatribe was cross-posted from [here](http://historum.com/war-military-history/97682-some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-soviet-union.html). That thread was closed and the OP suspended indefinitely. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/31 "2015-11-27T12:50:45Z")
> [@Found\_In\_Translation](#): > > BTW, this diatribe was cross-posted from [here](http://historum.com/war-military-history/97682-some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-soviet-union.html). That thread was closed and the OP suspended indefinitely. Of course, the Allegory of the Cave Plato explains, when an enlightened appears to the truth those who like to live in obscurity soon try to silence it. > [@Battle\_Pope](#): > > To quote Eddie Izzard: Still, decades after his death, thousands are willing to fall in battle for his ideas, millions consider him a hero. While you, if die tomorrow, will not be missed anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/32 "2015-11-27T13:03:05Z")
> [@Found\_In\_Translation](#): > > BTW, this diatribe was cross-posted from [here](http://historum.com/war-military-history/97682-some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-soviet-union.html). That thread was closed and the OP suspended indefinitely. Yeah, here too - > **[Some facts about Adolf Hitler, WW2 and Soviet Union](https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union.374172/)** > > My paternal grandad was austrian and served in the war, i know the facts by those who were there, not by zionist books. Read books like Mein Kampf, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, The Myth of the Twentieth Century by Alfred Rosenberg, Blood and... I reported the OP as neo-nazi spam. Perhaps everyone was busy yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/33 "2015-11-27T13:03:52Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > LMAO. Known by whom? Hitler expounded about it in Mein Kampf, since that time some said that it was a fraud, Actually, it was debunked as a fraud in 1921, and yet Hitler and Ford expounded upon it anyway because it supported their view of the world. As someone recently said, “It is intellectual dishonesty to deny the facts.” > [@](#): > > Obviously the academic and media systems they control to repeat a thousand times that it is a scam. You realize that “Of course that’s what they would say” isn’t actually a rebuttal of anything, right? Sure, they’d say that if they were all part of a vast global conspiracy of the media and academia involving millions of Jews, Communists and fellow travellers - but they’d also say it if it was genuinely a scam. Occam’s Razor cuts you off at the knees, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/34 "2015-11-27T13:05:56Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > Of course, the Allegory of the Cave Plato explains, when an enlightened appears to the truth those who like to live in obscurity soon try to silence it. > > Still, decades after his death, thousands are willing to fall in battle for his ideas, millions consider him a hero. While you, if die tomorrow, will not be missed anyone. Off to The Pit. Y’all have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/35 "2015-11-27T13:08:58Z")
> [@NIBIRU](#): > > Of course, the Allegory of the Cave Plato explains, when an enlightened appears to the truth those who like to live in obscurity soon try to silence it. Yeah, why are you doing that? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/36 "2015-11-27T13:09:58Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I reported the OP as neo-nazi spam. Perhaps everyone was busy yesterday. Neo-Nazi spam I can deal with. Yet another nitwit swooping in, declaring ownership of the truth and all opponents “sheeple”, Gish Galloping all over the place and generally demonstrating why the fight against ignorance goes on up until the point we all get sick of it and the banhammer falls – _that_ I can do without. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/37 "2015-11-27T13:15:13Z")
To the OP: Do you listen to National Socialist black metal? If so, which bands are your favorite? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/38 "2015-11-27T13:18:33Z")
I’m still waiting for some facts about Adolf Hitler, WW2 and [the] Soviet Union. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/39 "2015-11-27T13:22:48Z")
Not spam, just took the same discussion in different forums, in any I have been refuted. I’m not a neo-nazi. ‘Neo-Nazis’ are slowed skinheads, uneducated, influenced by films like ‘American History X’ or ‘Romper Stomper’, idiots influenced by Hollywood that do exactly what the zionistas want. I study the question for over 10 years, i lived with who was there and iknow all the nonsense of ‘official history’. Do not exist neo-anarchist or neo-communist, neo-nazi i’m not, consider myself a national socialist. The Holohoax is sustained by dogmas held by censorship and legal coercion, does not stand on facts. What I believe: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhXE_2FqTgk) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691/40 "2015-11-27T13:26:53Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > To the OP: > > Do you listen to National Socialist black metal? If so, which bands are your favorite? I dont like NSBM, just RAC… Lunikoff, Landser, Division 250, Nordfront, Tércios, Más que Palabras, Mara Ros, Civico 88, Non nobis Domine, Sleipnir, Sturmwehr, Weisse Wolf, Estirpe Imperial, Klan, Kolovrat, etc [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-facts-about-adolf-hitler-ww2-and-soviet-union/738691.md?page=3)