# Some guy keeps parking on my property **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 22, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571 "2021-04-22T22:03:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/101 "2021-04-24T13:19:02Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Did he ever come back? No, he never came back, đŸŽ¶ And his fate is still unlearned
 đŸŽ” 🚎 ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/102 "2021-04-24T13:41:24Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Looking at the pic OP posted, I don’t think it would even occur to me that it was a private parking space associated with the house with the chimney in the background. Maybe, but the point is that it is not YOUR property or public property so what give YOU the right to park on it. Note: I’m using “your” and “you” in the generic sense - not directed against gdave directly. ---
**Author:** ![cincinnatus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cincinnatus/32/7990_2.png) [@cincinnatus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/103 "2021-04-24T14:11:58Z")
I think you said you don’t use the spot. So . . . Take that log and roll it to block the spot. Or pound in a couple 2x2s and string a rope across. Or make a wood horse. Or put a sign in the center. Or put a couple cheap cones in front. Or park you own car there for a few days. How many other simple solutions can others come up with? Let’s hear them. Rah! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/104 "2021-04-24T14:18:32Z")
> [@cincinnatus](#): > > How many other simple solutions can others come up with? Let’s hear them. Rah! - > **[Caltrop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrop)** > > A caltrop (also known as caltrap, galtrop, cheval trap, galthrap, galtrap, calthrop, jackrock or crow's foot) is an area denial weapon made up of two or more sharp nails or spines arranged in such a manner that one of them always points upward from a stable base (for example, a tetrahedron). Historically, caltrops were part of defences that served to slow the advance of troops, especially horses, chariots, and war elephants, and were particularly effective against the soft feet of camels The mo... ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/105 "2021-04-24T14:25:55Z")
Well. _That_ escalated more quickly than I might have thought 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cincinnatus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cincinnatus/32/7990_2.png) [@cincinnatus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/106 "2021-04-24T14:33:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > an area denial weapon Ah! An excellent choice. I bet they could be made at home. By a crafty person. We’re trying to keep costs down. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/107 "2021-04-24T14:50:02Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Maybe, but the point is that it is not YOUR property or public property so what give YOU the right to park on it. > Note: I’m using “your” and “you” in the generic sense - not directed against gdave directly. I’m genuinely wondering if you’ve even read this thread. I’m not the only one who has said that it doesn’t clearly look like private property. Several posters, not just me, have said that spot looks like cutouts that we’ve seen that _are_ public property. What gives me the “right” to park on it is the same principle that gives me the right to park anywhere on the side of a public street. I’ve also, repeatedly, stated that I personally _wouldn’t_ park there, but, like several other posters, I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable for someone else to park there under the assumption that it’s an unused cutout. _No one_ in this thread, to the best of my knowledge, has actually contended that Pickup Truck Guy has the _right_ to park there. Just that they may genuinely not realize it is private property. At this point, it also seems like this is one of those “there are two kinds of people” things. You’re either one of those people to whom it’s self-evident that it’s a parking space on private property and it’s inconceivable that any reasonable person would believe otherwise, or you’re one of those people to whom the nature and legal status of that space is entirely unclear and it’s entirely conceivable that someone would mistake it for an unused cutout that is public space. Well, that’s actually not quite true. The OP actually seems like they think it should be obvious it’s a private parking space but are willing to consider that a reasonable person might disagree. It’s kind of funny that the rest of us are still arguing about this and several posters are continuing to offer aggressive “solutions”, while the OP has already clearly indicated their preferred course of action and seems rather less upset about the situation than some of the other posters in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/108 "2021-04-24T15:05:51Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > I’m genuinely wondering if you’ve even read this thread. I’m not the only one who has said that it doesn’t clearly look like private property. Several posters, not just me, have said that spot looks like cutouts that we’ve seen that _are_ public property. What gives me the “right” to park on it is the same principle that gives me the right to park anywhere on the side of a public street. I have read the thread and that in no way looks (to me) like a public parking spot. It is perpendicular to the road in a residential area for a single car, as a peninsula into obvious private property with nothing by it for public use (park, school, etc.) with no signage indicating public parking. > Here’s the thing: that spot looks (to some people) like _it is free parking._ Have you ever seen “Parking Wars”. I think people feel they can park in the OPs spot for no other reason than they _want_ to park there and manufacture a reason afterwards. > I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable for someone else to park there under the assumption that it’s an unused cutout. Maybe it’s a regional thing. Can you find a pic of a cutout in a residential area that looks similar to the OP’s pic that is for public use? ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/109 "2021-04-24T15:15:42Z")
Dude, I don’t know what to tell you, and I’m not going to continue arguing about this. I _know_ it looks like a private parking spot to you. It looks like that to a lot of folks in this thread. _No one_ is saying you’re wrong - it definitively _is_ a private parking spot. What I, and numerous other posters have contended, is that the fact that it’s a private parking spot isn’t as obvious to us, because we’ve seen plenty of cutouts, pull-overs, over-looks, turn-arounds, and so on and so forth, that look a lot like that, and _are_ public areas. If you don’t buy that, you don’t buy that, and I’m not going to waste anymore time trying to convince you. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/110 "2021-04-24T15:25:39Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And his fate is still unlearned
 đŸŽ” > 🚎 😁😁😁😁😁 many a ride neath the streets of Boston in my day, humming that song ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/111 "2021-04-24T15:51:00Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Maybe, but the point is that it is not YOUR property or public property so what give YOU the right to park on it. Because it’s there. Not all social groups are so uptight about minor encroachments on property that every consideration involves invocation of “rights.” ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/112 "2021-04-24T16:10:36Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > > Maybe, but the point is that it is not YOUR property or public property so what give YOU the right to park on it. > > Because it’s there. No. “Because it’s there” does not give anyone the “right” to park on private property without the owner’s permission. That’s the most full of shit reasoning I’ve ever heard. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/113 "2021-04-24T16:12:51Z")
[quote=“cochrane, post:112, topic:940571, full:true”] > [@Acsenray](#): > > > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > > > Maybe, but the point is that it is not YOUR property or public property so what give YOU the right to park on it. > > > [/quote] > > > > > > Because it’s there. > > No. “Because it’s there” does not give anyone the “right” to park on private property without the owner’s permission. That’s the most full of shit reasoning I’ve ever heard. Then I’ll have to restate the part of my post that you ignored 
 Not all social groups are so uptight about minor encroachments on property that every consideration involves invocation of “rights.” ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/114 "2021-04-24T16:13:35Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Dude, I don’t know what to tell you, and I’m not going to continue arguing about this. I _know_ it looks like a private parking spot to you. It looks like that to a lot of folks in this thread. _No one_ is saying you’re wrong - it definitively _is_ a private parking spot. What I, and numerous other posters have contended, is that the fact that it’s a private parking spot isn’t as obvious to us, because we’ve seen plenty of cutouts, pull-overs, over-looks, turn-arounds, and so on and so forth, that look a lot like that, and _are_ public areas. If you don’t buy that, you don’t buy that, and I’m not going to waste anymore time trying to convince you. I can’t fathom why what you wrote isn’t blatantly obvious. It’s completely reasonable that a person could be mistaken about the nature of that parking space. Very few people are going to purposefully park on private property uninvited. The solution is absurdly obvious too. Put a simple and polite note on the car explaining that it’s a not public parking and please don’t park there again. There is no need for threats. 99.9% of people won’t park there again. For the future, just put up a sign that says “Private Parking”. For fuck sake, people love to over complicate the most simplistic things. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/115 "2021-04-24T16:14:58Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > At this point, it also seems like this is one of those “there are two kinds of people” things. This is the one certain conclusion that can be drawn from this discussion. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/116 "2021-04-24T16:16:16Z")
[quote=“Acsenray, post:113, topic:940571, full:true”] > [@cochrane](#): > > > [@Acsenray](#): > > > > > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > > > > > Maybe, but the point is that it is not YOUR property or public property so what give YOU the right to park on it. > > > > [/quote] > > > > > > > > Because it’s there. > > > > No. “Because it’s there” does not give anyone the “right” to park on private property without the owner’s permission. That’s the most full of shit reasoning I’ve ever heard. > > Then I’ll have to restate the part of my post that you ignored 
 Not all social groups are so uptight about minor encroachments on property that every consideration involves invocation of “rights.” Other social groups are irrelevant to this situation. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/117 "2021-04-24T16:21:10Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Other social groups are irrelevant to this situation. Why are you so sure that your point of view is the sole relevant point of view in this situation? Do you think everyone who exists in the OP’s location or who exists in this thread must necessarily share your perspective? Why? Is the next step going to be that "This is _America_ and this is the only conceivable _American_ attitude towards personal property? Because I’m American, I always have been American, and I don’t share your uptight perspective on minor encroachments on property that “rights” must be taken into account for everything. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/118 "2021-04-24T16:24:35Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Not all social groups are so uptight about minor encroachments on property that every consideration involves invocation of “rights.” You’ve repeatedly made this sort of reference, to “other social groups,” whom you feel have less stringent concerns about property rights, in this thread, without being specific. Do you have particular “other social groups” in mind? Do you care to actually spell out what you seem to be saying in some sort of code? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/119 "2021-04-24T16:26:03Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Do you think everyone who exists in the OP’s location or who exists in this thread must necessarily share your perspective? Why? They seem to when you count up all the people who disagree with you. Other social groups are irrelevant to my giving a shit about them wrt this situation. Private property has the force of law in the OP’s location, so a hypothetical social group’s opinion doesn’t matter. If you park on private property in my location, you’ll get towed and sucks to be you. We don’t live in Mr. Rogers’ neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571/120 "2021-04-24T16:27:40Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > We don’t live in Mr. Rogers’ neighborhood. Maybe you should consider it. He sets a pretty good example for how to live life. You can always be the first. Change starts somewhere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-guy-keeps-parking-on-my-property/940571.md?page=7)