# Some kid says the Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic, and out come the Crusaders **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 23, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733 "2015-03-23T00:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/41 "2015-03-25T05:41:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Let’s allow all their prejudices for a moment. This the Muslim language, used by those who want to blow up the U.S. Why would you object to your enemies pledging allegiance to your country’s flag and current government? > > Are we so remedial now that we don’t know what allegiance is? Arabic does NOT equal Muslim, dumbass. Not all Arabs are Muslims, nor are all Muslims Arab. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/42 "2015-03-25T06:05:51Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > You know, there _are_ non-Muslims who speak Arabic. There are 10-20 million Coptic Christians who speak Arabic. [ISIS doesn’t like them, and I suspect the feeling is mutual](http://time.com/3718470/isis-copts-egypt/). You think partinent facts like these matter to the derpa derpa derpa doo crowd? 😃 Anyone who speaks Arabic is obviously an enemy of ours. Of course, Saudi Arabia is our ally. They speak Arabic. Egypt is our ally. They speak Arabic. Kuwait is our friend, they speak Arabic. The United Arab Emirates are close business partners with us, and they speak Arabic. Jeez, what about those countries we’ve been having problems with? And Iranians speak Persian. Afghanis speak Pashto and Dari. Pakistanis speak English and Urdu. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/43 "2015-03-25T08:11:07Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Arabic does NOT equal Muslim, dumbass. Not all Arabs are Muslims, nor are all Muslims Arab. :rolleyes: I thought she was saying “Let’s go ahead and pretend those prejudiced folks are right about Arabic being the ‘Muslim language’…” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/44 "2015-03-25T08:30:06Z")
I’m pretty sure BigT’s a dude, but…yeah, that’s what I got from his post, too. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/45 "2015-03-25T11:47:55Z")
First they’re speaking Muslamic then they’re bringing ray guns to school. Where does it end? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/46 "2015-03-25T12:16:25Z")
Haven’t American intelligence agencies been looking to hire Arabic speakers for years now? That has to be tough if only terrorists speak the language. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/47 "2015-03-25T12:20:47Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Including foreign languages week? > > How’s that work, exactly? it seems he fears for the purity of the american mind, it is dangerous to know and be exposed to other languages… although this question of the integration and language seems strange. did not the usa have german and many other non english schools for most of its history? maybe it is only dangerous to integration if it is then not the northern europeans. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/48 "2015-03-25T12:25:18Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > No doubt about that. Let’s just keep our school-sanctioned activities in English. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Including foreign languages week? > > How’s that work, exactly? Madame DeFarge: We are so poor, we do not even have a language! Just this stupid accent! Fellow Revolutionist: She’s right, she’s right! We all talk like Maurice Chevalier! ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/49 "2015-03-25T12:28:49Z")
What happens if an American-born Muslim says the pledge? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/50 "2015-03-25T13:24:23Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > although this question of the integration and language seems strange. did not the usa have german and many other non english schools for most of its history? Not as far as I know, no. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/51 "2015-03-25T14:34:27Z")
M: but I have seen from the wikipedia and the other sources it was the case, and from the wikipedia link here is an academic note[that describes german language official public schools.](http://maxkade.iupui.edu/adams/chap7.html) ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/52 "2015-03-25T15:01:19Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > No doubt about that. Let’s just keep our school-sanctioned activities in English. All I’ve got to say is they’re not making me learn any foreign languages. If English is good enough for me, then by golly, it’s good enough for the rest of the world! Everyone should speak English or just shut up, that’s what I say! They may want to check the chemical content of their tap water. > [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > What happens if an American-born Muslim says the pledge? Some kind of matter-antimatter reaction, I’d bet. Mr. Neville and I were at a Mazda dealership the other day, checking out cars and putting our car seats in them to see if they would fit. We wondered what would happen if you tried to put a car seat in a Miata. Probably something similar to what would happen if an American-born Muslim said the Pledge of Allegiance. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/53 "2015-03-25T15:45:24Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > What happens if an American-born Muslim says the pledge? The statue of Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial rises from his seat and lays waste to the Union. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/54 "2015-03-25T17:11:00Z")
Well, obviously, the most offensive part was that they just had to do it at Pine **Bush** school. Have some respect. I am mostly disappointed that I cannot seem to find a recording of it. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/55 "2015-03-25T17:25:51Z")
Yeah, last I heard, pines were trees. What the heck? ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/56 "2015-03-25T17:31:16Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The statue of Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial rises from his seat and lays waste to the Union. [I played that video game!](http://samandmax.wikia.com/wiki/Abe_Lincoln_Must_Die!) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/57 "2015-03-25T19:20:58Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Well, obviously, the most offensive part was that they just had to do it at Pine **Bush** school. Have some respect. > > I am mostly disappointed that I cannot seem to find a recording of it. One word of the pledge is in Arabic in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWuQUYiHRU&spfreload=10). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/58 "2015-03-25T19:30:12Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > What happens if an American-born Muslim says the pledge? The Statue of Liberty cries a single tear which DNA testing identifies as belonging to Ronald Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/59 "2015-03-25T19:42:02Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I’m more concerned that our schools indulge students not speaking English. That is the primary method of integration in this country; what purpose does it really serve in our schools? > [@Stringbean](#): > > Let’s just keep our school-sanctioned activities in English. > [@Ramira](#): > > it seems he fears for the purity of the american mind, it is dangerous to know and be exposed to other languages… You must [assimilate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_boarding_schools)!! It’s like deja vu all over again. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733/60 "2015-03-25T23:14:32Z")
And, of course, on one particular media outlet, the host [discussed the issue with expert Arab-American Zuhdi Jasser (video)](http://youtube.com/watch?v=wdjB9Yyw6Fs), where we learn what an awful thing it was to make all those kids recite The Pledge in Arabic. (which, of course, is not at all what happened) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-kid-says-the-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-and-out-come-the-crusaders/715733.md?page=4)