How is it a problem and who is outraged? I can’t imagine Americans generally caring if people are marrying their cousins. I certainly wouldn’t raise an eyebrow.
I’m sorry, I missed that in the scrum…would you please link the post for me?
I’m considering being outraged and I’m contemplated not being willing to take it any more. Sometime in the future, I’ll potentially protest. A lot.
I’ve found being mad as hell is pretty cost-effective. 
That’s fascinating. Maybe we should make SSM contingent on not reproducing (with each other.) Problem solved.
That’s a pretty excellent point!
Seriously ?
Societies where cousin marriage is customary end up having a lot of health problems causes by inbreeding, and probably lower IQ as well. They also are socially less cohesive, people identify with their family and clan rather than the broader society.
Nice opinion, you’ve got there. Got fact?
I’m going with “It seems like it should be correct.”
But as it relates to the OP, why should any marriage between consenting adults not be legal?
Because of the dangers of grooming. A terrible person who knows that his daughter can consent to marry him at 18 might raise her specifically in such a way as to convince her to give her consent at the age of 18. This is not a situation we want to encourage. It’s also not remotely analogous to anything involving SSM.
Get me a dozen such couples, and let me hear what they have to say. That’s how I was convinced that SSM should be legal – by hearing from multiple gay couples. For me to evaluate any other sorts of possible unions, I need to hear from both partners in several such couples/groups/whatever, ask them questions, and so on.
But she can be groomed for lots of stuff we might not approve of. She could be groomed to join ISIS, or she could be groomed to think it’s a good idea to marry an inmate as an act of compassion.
And that leaves out the possibility that there was no “grooming”. Let’s say the father was away for 18 years and gets reunited.
That’s one of the reasons why we can’t evaluate such a pairing without talking to multiple examples of such a pairing. I couldn’t evaluate gay marriage until I heard from multiple gay couples.
I guess it depends on how close said cousins are - I’d have little issue with like two people who get together into adulthood and find out they were estranged cousins or something like that.
OTOH, if they’ve spent every holiday together since y’all were three or four, or grew up in a tight knit family all in the same property/neighbourhood… that’s getting into ew.ew.ew.ew.ew. to me.
Please. This is a just cop-out wrapped up to look pretty. Feel free to opine if you’d like, or not. I mean if there’s just no we for you to fathom the arguments for a parent-offspring parent, why do you post to simply say, “I don’t and can’t have an opinion about this.”? It’s not like the question was asked of you specifically. Yeesh.
I don’t and can’t have an opinion about this until I were to talk to multiple such couples. How could I? I could have an opinion about hypothetical couples that you describe, and you create answers to questions as you think they would, but that doesn’t help for real-world policy.
And come on… don’t whine about people answering questions you pose in GD. It’s GD, for god’s sake!
I don’t think that’s anything to be proud of. It points to you using emotionalism to decide an issue that is one of principle. But hey, if that works for you…
Reading? Empathy? Using your imagination to craft the best arguments both for and against. Does this really need to be pointed out to you?
Isn’t this the exact same argument some used against SSM?