# Some old white women. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 20, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249 "2016-12-20T18:22:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/41 "2016-12-20T22:39:33Z")
Actually, for the most part yes I do. Because apperances to the contrary here on the Dope I don’t like actually argueing in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/42 "2016-12-20T22:43:17Z")
Too vague, you just described scenes from most of the married couples I know. I expected more, you know, “I bought donuts and she has to watch her blood sugar, so she chased me with hedge clippers.” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/43 "2016-12-20T22:52:50Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Actually, for the most part yes I do. Because apperances to the contrary here on the Dope I don’t like actually argueing in real life. Tip: You might have better luck at avoiding arguments if you tried using more civilized discourse instead of just barking obscenity-laced dictatorial commands. E.g.: “Calm down” -\> “There, there, honey” “Shut the fuck up” -\> [silent listening, during which the talker eventually **will** shut the fuck up] “If you are so fucking smart do it yourself” -\> “No, I think this way is best, but if you want to take over then feel free” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/44 "2016-12-20T23:02:38Z")
Please explain to me what in the fuck, exactly, inspired this thread. You did not just wake up this morning and decide you hated white women. Also, everybody knows old white men are the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/45 "2016-12-20T23:16:53Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > If the words: > > Calm down > > Be quite > > STFU > > or if you are so fucking smart do it yourself… > > Do NOT cause you to: > > Calm down > > Be quite > > STFU > > or just fucking do it yourself… > > Well, then you are on your way. Guess I’m well on my way. In fact most of the human race is on their way. This list is entirely composed of commands that will cause most people to become more irritated or outright lose their shit, regardless of sex. WTF dude? The last two are winners: “shut the fuck up” and “just fucking do it yourself”. Yep, your wife lost a _real_ charmer. I can’t imagine why she was so touchy. :eek: OP - your post is racist and misogynistic at best. Next time maybe stick to a particular example - your MiL makes you nuts or whatever - and leave the sweeping generalizations out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/46 "2016-12-20T23:36:36Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Please explain to me what in the fuck, exactly, inspired this thread. You did not just wake up this morning and decide you hated white women. According to my scorecard, the OP was: 1. Rejected 2. By GILFs 3. In four different cities ---
**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/47 "2016-12-20T23:39:01Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Where all the old white women at? I got this. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/48 "2016-12-20T23:40:26Z")
I’m rapidly approaching old woman age, and I’m white. I look forward to people being actually scared of me bitching. That would be _awesome._ Where do I sign up? ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/49 "2016-12-20T23:43:40Z")
I’m an old white woman. Almost all my friends are old white women. We aren’t any more racist or sexist than we can manage. We don’t give a shit about our looks, and we don’t give a shit about you and your pathetic misogynist fantasies about our motivations, either. Also, I can kill you with my brain. So back off. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/50 "2016-12-20T23:45:48Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > I’m rapidly approaching old woman age, and I’m white. I look forward to people being actually scared of me bitching. > > That would be _awesome._ Where do I sign up? You’re already signed up. A cane, such as Margaret Mead used to clear a path in front of her, is all you need. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/51 "2016-12-20T23:49:13Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > What’s wrong with being racy? Rac_ist_, Nigel. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/52 "2016-12-20T23:56:37Z")
Poster Tee. Sorry if my post appeared to aimed at you personally in terms of my list of what might consist of my definitiion of a bitchy old woman. But my EX. Again, Jeezus H Christ. As one of my relatives (probably in the top 5 percent of the population when it comes to being easy going and non complaining) said of one of our rather difficult relatives…“everything is an arguement with her…EVERYTHING”. He said that not long before my EX became the EX. I wouldn’t say I had an actual ephiphany, but things certainly became much clearer. Then it dawned on me…all the stories I heard from the EX about HER mother made her sound like a nasty old piece of work. So, between the trend, the history, the eniightment, and the genetic history it became pretty clear that yep…that shit ain’t ending anytime soon. If anything its going to get worse and my tolerance sure as hell ain’t gonna get better either. Gahhh. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/53 "2016-12-21T00:09:08Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > There are literally behaviours, that for lack of a better description I would call “bitchy stupid arguementative old woman shit”. > > Yes, men will pull that crap. Or younger women. But IME its going to be older woman pulling it. […] > > As one of my relatives (probably in the top 5 percent of the population when it comes to being easy going and non complaining) said of one of our rather difficult relatives…“everything is an arguement with her…EVERYTHING”. > > He said that not long before my EX became the EX. I wouldn’t say I had an actual ephiphany, but things certainly became much clearer. Then it dawned on me…all the stories I heard from the EX about HER mother made her sound like a nasty old piece of work. :rolleyes: In other words, you’ve encountered some bitchy stupid argumentative behavior in a few elderly female relatives, so even though you’re perfectly well aware that men and younger women also exhibit bitchy stupid argumentative behavior, you’ve decided to label it, “for lack of a better description”, as specifically an “old woman” thing. By that token, based on the evidence in this thread, we could equally well label grumpy illogical overgeneralizations as a “stupid bitchy old man” thing. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/54 "2016-12-21T00:22:42Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > :rolleyes: In other words, you’ve encountered some bitchy stupid argumentative behavior in a few elderly female relatives, so even though you’re perfectly well aware that men and younger women also exhibit bitchy stupid argumentative behavior, you’ve decided to label it, “for lack of a better description”, as specifically an “old woman” thing. > > By that token, based on the evidence in this thread, we could equally well label grumpy illogical overgeneralizations as a “stupid bitchy old man” thing. The old woman are that are bitchy are the worst of the worst in my limited experience. If you aren’t bitchy don’t take it personally. Not to mention that there are probably different flavors of bitchyness. Maybe youngis bitchy men are a bit different than older than bitchy men for example in the way they express it. And maybe you can tolerate one type better than another. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/55 "2016-12-21T00:42:46Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Is this supposed to be satire? Cause Larry David you’re not. Hell, you’re not even Larry the Cable Guy. I am a white woman, but I’m not old and I’m certainly not rich; maybe it has gone over my head? Yeah, but, here’s the thing: you’re still cute. The way I interpret his OP, you have to wait until your looks fade. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/56 "2016-12-21T00:42:54Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > The old woman are that are bitchy are the worst of the worst in my limited experience. If you aren’t bitchy don’t take it personally. The old men that are grumpy illogical overgeneralizers are the worst of the worst in my limited experience. If you aren’t a grumpy illogical overgeneralizing…oh right, um, well, I guess you kind of do have to take it personally. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/57 "2016-12-21T00:58:06Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Poster Tee. > > Sorry if my post appeared to aimed at you personally in terms of my list of what might consist of my definitiion of a bitchy old woman. > > But my EX. Again, Jeezus H Christ. As one of my relatives (probably in the top 5 percent of the population when it comes to being easy going and non complaining) said of one of our rather difficult relatives…“everything is an arguement with her…EVERYTHING”. > > He said that not long before my EX became the EX. I wouldn’t say I had an actual ephiphany, but things certainly became much clearer. Then it dawned on me…all the stories I heard from the EX about HER mother made her sound like a nasty old piece of work. So, between the trend, the history, the eniightment, and the genetic history it became pretty clear that yep…that shit ain’t ending anytime soon. If anything its going to get worse and my tolerance sure as hell ain’t gonna get better either. > > Gahhh. No worries. IRL I’m accustomed to telling people what to do and how to do it, so at times, my late husband was perfectly fine with telling me where to go and how to get there. I’m sorry he didn’t get his chance to be a raging ill-mannered old fart. He would have enjoyed himself. Me, I have low tolerance as well, and I should probably be arguing with you but I’m too fucking lazy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/58 "2016-12-21T01:29:26Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > The old woman are that are bitchy are the worst of the worst in my limited experience. If you aren’t bitchy don’t take it personally. Not to mention that there are probably different flavors of bitchyness. Maybe youngis bitchy men are a bit different than older than bitchy men for example in the way they express it. And maybe you can tolerate one type better than another. I will take the unpopular opinion and agree with you. I learned this (or rather should have learned it better when I was 15 years old and started to work in retail). The nastiest bitches you would ever meet were older white women. It certainly wasn’t all of them but you could bet good money that, if you got a true hellbeast in the checkout line, they were going to fall into that category. Some of them were flat-out abusive for no reason. My own grandmother fell squarely into that category so I had her banned from the store at least while I was working and refused to even go to her funeral because she was one of the nastiest bitches I wish I never knew. Other groups had their own detectable patterns of idiosyncrasies but none of them were as abusive as older white ladies. I had almost forgotten about that phenomenon until I worked admissions as a volunteer for a sports tournament this past weekend. Apparently, some older white women can’t comprehend that someone working even temporarily in a service position does not give them the right to be nasty for no reason because they were the only group that were flat-out rude. Luckily for me, I am older now and I could just tell them to get fucked in the nicest way possible because it wasn’t my real job and I was just there because it was a requirement for my daughter to compete. I was in the same marriage situation as you as well. I married a beautiful, rich, Italian-American Princess that also happens to be a mega-bitch. That used to work great for her when she was 23 because all people cared about were her looks and family wealth. It doesn’t work well at all when the looks start to fade, the abusive personality really starts to shine through and she is on her own even if she does make a lot of money herself now. One of the happiest days of my life was a year after the divorce when I sold my wedding ring to a jeweler for scrap gold value. They asked me for proof that it was really mine to sell. I said, “Look at me, can’t you see the emotional scars?”. I got a laugh and cash on the spot. To be completely sexist yet again, a lot of women don’t age well in any way. In their defense, it is a little unfair because the pretty ones become accustomed to being treated a certain way just because of their looks or cuteness but it is all downhill from there if they don’t make a successful transition to something else later in life. That can lead to extreme bitterness and aggression if they can’t form a new identity successfully. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/59 "2016-12-21T01:39:23Z")
> [@BeeGee](#): > > What a load of bullshit!..Maybe you’re buying to that feeble image portrayed on TV that shows a bunch of postmenopausal white women floating around in pastel floaty garments, pottering in the garden, and painting pictures. Sitting in their easy chairs waiting for their grandchildren to send them a Hallmark card while the Geritol kicks in. Oh, hell no. I didn’t spend the 80’s figuring out the right combination of Elmers glue and shaving cream that would make hair stand up straight so that I could fade gently away… Genius post! I would have totally been trying to ball you in 1978. Of course, you would have pointed and laughed at me because I was a long haired hippie who went to Grateful Dead shows. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249/60 "2016-12-21T02:26:36Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > I’m rapidly approaching old woman age, and I’m white. I look forward to people being actually scared of me bitching. > > That would be _awesome._ Where do I sign up? Isn’t it fantastic? We have _potential_! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-old-white-women/775249.md?page=4)