# Some people seem to be confused by "Rogue One" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 30, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470 "2016-11-30T17:17:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/41 "2016-12-01T03:38:24Z")
I’m anxiously awaiting _UPS Star Truck Alpha_, also known as Episode 3.6, in which the plans for the DEATH STAR have been stolen, but need to be transported to the Rebel Base. Starring Jason Statham. And yes, the movie ends with the successful destruction of a 1:64th scale model of the DEATH STAR that the Empire was using for prototyping and test purposes. Ewoks rejoice! ---
**Author:** ![Gordon\_Urquhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gordon\_Urquhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_Urquhart)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/42 "2016-12-01T04:21:23Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I think some people are over estimating how much the average Movie goer thinks about Star Wars 🙂 At least that is what my recent experience is bearing out. I suppose you’re right to some extent. It’s easy for me to forget that not everyone was as influenced by the movie as I was. It’s 39 years old; if someone had wanted to watch a 39-year-old movie in 1977, they could have watched _The Adventures of Robin Hood_, with Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/43 "2016-12-01T05:04:36Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And yes, the movie ends with the successful destruction of a 1:64th scale model of the DEATH STAR that the Empire was using for prototyping and test purposes. Ewoks rejoice! Ewoks are just 1:64th scale Wookies. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/44 "2016-12-01T05:28:29Z")
I was going to say when I first heard about this movie I thought based on the original dark forces game…im disappointed ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/45 "2016-12-01T05:45:32Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > It’s obvious to me, but I am a little surprised that none of trailers really have said “Before a New Hope.” Or just “Old Hope”. “Misbegotten Hope.” “Previous Hope”. “The Hope that Noped.” “Hopeless.” “Hip-Hope.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/46 "2016-12-01T05:47:05Z")
“Anna Paquin Does Not Appear In This Movie.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/47 "2016-12-01T06:20:15Z")
I’m not even sure you can assume most people have read and even remember the crawl. Sure, it’s iconic, but not for what it says. And most non-nerds I know don’t really read long text in movies. “tl;dr” became a thing for a reason. I can’t comment on any of the rest of the thread, as I’ve not seen the trailers at all. They’d have to air it with the Super Bowl for me to see it, or the ad would have to go viral because everyone likes/hates/makes fun of it. Or maybe somebody reacts to it in a hilarious fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/48 "2016-12-01T14:17:33Z")
Eh - it’s not about people being unaware of basic Star Wars things, it’s just a bad marketing move that doesn’t matter, because anything with Star Wars on it will make a crap-ton of cash. A friend of mine on Facebook commented that “I’m a huge Star Wars fan, but they’re seriously going to make \*another \*Death Star movie?” And of the trailers, I think I’ve seen one on TV (I think it premiered during the World Series) - the rest are online. The one I’ve seen was extremely vague, more of a teaser. But it seems like that Nissan commercial has been running non-stop. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/49 "2016-12-01T17:53:07Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > You missed two movies. _Rogue One_ will be the tenth Star Wars movie made, not the eighth. > > (I swear, sometimes it seems like I’m the only one who remembers the Ewok movies) Ewok Movies? > **[Star Wars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars)** > > Star Wars is an American epic space opera media franchise created by George Lucas, which began with the eponymous 1977 film\[a\] and quickly became a worldwide pop culture phenomenon. The franchise has been expanded into various films and other media, including television series, video games, novels, comic books, theme park attractions, and themed areas, comprising an all-encompassing fictional universe.\[b\] Star Wars is one of the highest-grossing media franchises of all time. > The original 197... ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/50 "2016-12-01T18:01:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Ewok Movies? > [Star Wars - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars) Yes? From your own link: > [@](#): > > Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure (1984), is a made-for-TV film, released theatrically in Europe. Set before Return of the Jedi, the film follows the Ewoks and a family whose ship crashes on Endor.[171] > Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985) is a made-for-TV film released theatrically in Europe. A sequel to the Caravan of Courage, the film depicts the Ewoks’ defending Endor from mauraders.[172] ---
**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/51 "2016-12-01T18:25:39Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Here are the first two paragraphs of the opening crawl from the very first Star Wars movie from 1977: > Originally Posted by Star Wars: A New Hope What is this “A New Hope” of which you speak? I remember that as the crawl for Star Wars when it came out in 1977. /tongue in cheek ---
**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/52 "2016-12-01T18:38:35Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Even among those in the know, there were comments wondering how many Bothans would die in this movie and whether the main character was a Bothan herself. Forgetting that the Bothans died in the process of obtaining intel for the _second_ Death Star, the one in _Return of the Jedi_. Perhaps they were just excited to see Mon Mothma again. No no no no no. No. “Many Bothans” did not die. _Manny_ Bothans died. He was from a planet on the edge of the Empire, brought into the service of the Rebellion when his wife’s cousin’s daughter’s prom date died when the original Death Star destroyed Alderaan. There is a statue of him outside the Coruscant government center but everyone who has seen it wonders if it truly captured his likeness. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/53 "2016-12-01T18:52:32Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Yes? > > From your own link: “made for tv”. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/54 "2016-12-01T19:40:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > “made for tv”. “released theatrically in Europe” ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/55 "2016-12-03T19:34:34Z")
I haven’t seen any trailers, but I have seen a couple of TV commercials. I think it’s perfectly possible that someone who, if asked, “What happened just before the original Star Wars movie started?” could think a minute and say, “Rebels stole plans for the Death Star and hid them inside R2,” could watch the TV ads and not realize the new movie tells that story. Everything I’ve read about the movie mentions it’s a prequel. Nothing in the commercials mentions it. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/56 "2016-12-03T19:52:06Z")
I get the plot and the fact that it’s a prequel (what the fuck was all that Jar-Jar Binks shit, then?), what I don’t get is - am I supposed to be as crap-in-my-pants excited about this as I was required to be about _The Force Awakes_, and which I’ve already been ordered to be about _Episode VIII_? That is to say … is this an actual according to Hoyle _Star Wars_ canon movie, authorized by St. Lucas and everything or is it some cheap indy-licensed thing that the real Star Wars people tolerate because of all the greenbacks? ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/57 "2016-12-03T20:00:04Z")
Lucas has nothing to do with _Star Wars_ any more. He sold it all to Disney. And this is an actual, according-to-Hoyle _Star Wars_ canon movie, brought to you by the people at Disney who run the _Star Wars_ division — the same people who brought you _The Force Awakens_. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/58 "2016-12-03T23:14:06Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > … is this an actual according to Hoyle _Star Wars_ canon movie The plan is for Disney and Lucasfilm to release a new Star Wars movie every year for the foreseeable future. It will be alternating between a Saga movie like the Force Awakens, and a non-Saga-but-still-canonical movie set elsewhere in the Star Wars timeline about other side characters. [ul] [li]2015: Episode VII The Force Awakens[/li][li]2016: Rogue One[/li][li]2017: Episode VIII[/li][li]2018: Han Solo[/li][li]2019: Episode IX[/li][li]2020: Currently unreleased, but rumours include Boba Fett, Obi Wan Kenobi, or even Yoda as possible subjects[/li][li]2021: Potentially Episode X, unconfirmed[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/59 "2016-12-04T00:06:30Z")
> [@Cell\_Guy](#): > > No no no no no. No. > > “Many Bothans” did not die. _Manny_ Bothans died. He was from a planet on the edge of the Empire, brought into the service of the Rebellion when his wife’s cousin’s daughter’s prom date died when the original Death Star destroyed Alderaan. There is a statue of him outside the Coruscant government center but everyone who has seen it wonders if it truly captured his likeness. Whatever. The _Rogue One_ film isn’t about this. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-people-seem-to-be-confused-by-rogue-one/773470/60 "2016-12-04T00:31:21Z")
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