# Some Proof that a BJU "Education" isn't Worth Much **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352 "2007-02-08T14:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/1 "2007-02-08T14:02:54Z")
As if anyone actually needs any more proof. Feel free to peruse this [article](http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660192029,00.html) and wrap your mind around this gem, uttered by South Carolina State Representative Gloria Haskins: > [@](#): > > “I don’t think that I could see someone who is a member of a faith so contrary to my faith having my support,” said Haskins, a graduate of Bob Jones University, the Christian fundamentalist college. So, it’s not an issue of what the man’s position is on the issues, but just if you approve of his faith? Got it. Thanks. Glad to know that. Insert your own platitude. Then beat your head against the wall when you realize Haskins is actually part of government! If that doesn’t make you wonder how someone with no brain manages to function in society, this will help you out a tad: Charleston County GOP Chairwoman Cyndi Mosteller said (quoted in the same article): > [@](#): > > “The question is: Does Governor Romney support Joseph Smith’s doctrines? We as evangelicals don’t believe we can go in and change Paul’s doctrine. I don’t see how you move around this.” If they’re all that concerned about Paul’s doctrine, why aren’t they keeping their traps shut? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/2 "2007-02-08T14:33:20Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] So, it’s not an issue of what the man’s position is on the issues, but just if you approve of his faith? Got it. Thanks. Glad to know that. Insert your own platitude. Then beat your head against the wall when you realize Haskins is actually part of government! [/QUOTE] So is this a “I don’t like what their religion thinks about my religion” thread? Just askin’. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/3 "2007-02-08T14:33:55Z")
As long as they have consensus about the queer kicking and fetus worshipping, they’ll work out the rest of their petty squabbles about shit like the Bill of Rights. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/4 "2007-02-08T14:39:03Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] So is this a “I don’t like what their religion thinks about my religion” thread? Just askin’. [/QUOTE] Nope. It’s a “I don’t like their braindead idea that a man’s religion disqualifies hiim from government” thread. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/5 "2007-02-08T15:34:14Z")
First saw the title, thought “A doctorate degree in Advanced Fellatio”? Hanging out with you guys is _totally_ corrupting! ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/6 "2007-02-08T15:46:31Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] So, it’s not an issue of what the man’s position is on the issues, but just if you approve of his faith? Got it. Thanks. [/QUOTE] So you are of the opinion that people have no right to evaluate candidates based on their religious leanings? Very good, then let Leiberman run. I’m sure that the only people voting against him will be BJU graduates. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/7 "2007-02-08T15:46:41Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] First saw the title, thought “A doctorate degree in Advanced Fellatio”? Hanging out with you guys is _totally_ corrupting! [/QUOTE] I cannot tell a lie. I thought the same thing. I’m half ashamed. The other half is still giggling like Beavis. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/8 "2007-02-08T16:40:46Z")
I confess, seeing Romney be rejected by the troglodytes he’s been so desperately courting is sweet. That pandering suit ran for governor of Massachusetts with lots of rhetoric about a woman’s right to choose should be protected and discrimination against gays is bad. Now he’s blathering about how everything he did as governor was “in favor of life” and death to abortion and death to gay marriage. Saw a clip of the smarmy bastard recently where he says with a smirk, “How could a conservative like me get elected in such a liberal state?” BY LYING YOUR ASS OFF, YOU FUCKING TWO-FACED FLIP-FLOPPING SCUM! _pant pant pant_ Ah, that feels better. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/9 "2007-02-08T17:08:16Z")
I think we may see some of the chickens coming home to roost whenever the GOP primary season comes around. Years of pandering to fundies is now resulting a situation where the Republican Presidential field is going to be paralyzed by cockblocking evangelicals unwilling to accept any candidate who doesn’t fit a very narrow religious/social profile. They’re going to shut out the Giulianis and Romneys in favor of nutcases like Brownbeck and the party has only itself to blame. Did anyone see that crazy, obese screaming Fundy lady on _Wife Swap_? That’s who the party sold out to, and now they’re going to pay the price. People like that cannot be appeased or reasoned with. They have no pragmatism in them, no cynicism, no tolerance for _realpolitik_. Trying to use them politically is like trying to train a wolverine. You might be able to get them to attack somebody else, but you are never going to be their master, and God help you if you promised them meat you don’t intend to deliver. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/10 "2007-02-08T17:17:10Z")
Oooooh, that BJU. I’m glad that an education at the other BJU is still worth plenty! ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/11 "2007-02-08T17:21:26Z")
Still, it’s illegal to put it to use to make a living. Strictly an avocational study… ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/12 "2007-02-08T17:23:53Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] You might be able to get them to attack somebody else, but you are never going to be their master, and God help you if you promised them meat you don’t intend to deliver. [/QUOTE] I don’t agree. No one is delivering to them and they still vote… er… religiously. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/13 "2007-02-08T17:24:55Z")
It’s funny how a certain poster here likes to keep referring to right-wing nuts having aneurysms. I’ve never seen so many brains exploding as I have over Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/14 "2007-02-08T17:44:51Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] So you are of the opinion that people have no right to evaluate candidates based on their religious leanings? Very good, then let Leiberman run. I’m sure that the only people voting against him will be BJU graduates. [/QUOTE] Who’s stopping Leiberman from running? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/15 "2007-02-08T17:46:49Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] It’s funny how a certain poster here likes to keep referring to right-wing nuts having aneurysms. I’ve never seen so many brains exploding as I have over Bush. [/QUOTE] Wow. How did this post end up in this thread, instead of in Aechines current screed. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/16 "2007-02-08T17:50:46Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] I don’t agree. No one is delivering to them and they still vote… er… religiously. [/QUOTE] That will stop if they’re asked to support a Mormon or a social liberal. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/17 "2007-02-08T17:50:57Z")
Well? Are you going to re-post it over there? It would surely have me doing less head-scratching in that other thread. **Dio** , down in front, please. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/18 "2007-02-08T17:53:45Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] They’re going to shut out the Giulianis and Romneys in favor of nutcases like Brownbeck and the party has only itself to blame. [/QUOTE] There’s always Mike Huckabee. But I don’t know if you’re right. The Religious Right, at least the leaders of the Religious Right, tends to be a lot more pragmatic than they pretend to be. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/19 "2007-02-08T17:56:56Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Wow. How did this post end up in this thread, instead of in Aechines current screed. My bad. [/QUOTE] Acrid reflex syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352/20 "2007-02-08T17:58:23Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Who’s stopping Leiberman from running? [/QUOTE] I think Lieberman pretty much did it himself when he ran for the Senate as an independent. But since **athelas’** memory doesn’t seem to go back too far… Lieberman did run, and ended up as the Dem VP candidate, in 2000. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-proof-that-a-bju-education-isnt-worth-much/391352.md?page=2)