# Some questions about guns

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 12, 2015, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929 "2015-07-12T10:01:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![TCMF-2L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tcmf-2l/32/16553_2.png) [@TCMF-2L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TCMF-2L)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929/61 "2015-07-16T16:02:31Z")

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Since I also know nothing about guns can I add my own question please?

Recently a British gangster was murdered by shotgun. The case earning some notoriety since the police initially assumed the guy died of natural causes!

> **[Notorious gangster John 'Goldfinger' Palmer murdered with a silenced shotgun](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/john-goldfinger-palmer-notorious-gangster-6007698)**
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> As police continue their investigation, there is increasing suspicion that he was taken out because he was about to become a supergrass

The report mentions the weapon was a shotgun with a silencer. It also suggests ‘specialist’ ammunition was used to inflict maximum damage.

My question is, bearing in mind the (unidentified) specialist ammunition, how would the police know a silencer was used on the shotgun? As far as I am aware the murder weapon has not been recovered.

TCMF-2L

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929/62 "2015-07-16T17:07:09Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> 1. Cocking a pistol: Okay, first of all, you don’t cock a pistol, you cock the hammer.

You dont turn a _car_, you turn the steering wheel, right?:dubious:

Is the pistol cocked or uncocked after you cock the hammer?

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929/63 "2015-07-16T17:18:03Z")

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> [@TCMF-2L](#):
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> My question is, bearing in mind the (unidentified) specialist ammunition, how would the police know a silencer was used on the shotgun? As far as I am aware the murder weapon has not been recovered.
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> TCMF-2L

sounds like that police department has a Jump To Conclusions mat.

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**Author:** ![TCMF-2L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tcmf-2l/32/16553_2.png) [@TCMF-2L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TCMF-2L)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929/64 "2015-07-16T18:32:29Z")

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All the press reports I’ve noticed specifically mention it was a silenced shotgun.

My guess was they could tell it was a shotgun from the pellets in the body and, presumably, no one heard anything so an assumption it must have been silenced.

TCMF-2L

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-questions-about-guns/724929/65 "2015-07-18T13:45:57Z")

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Difference between machine guns and automatic cannons in air to air warfare. MG’s fire small anti-personnel cartridges that have inert lead slugs. Cannons have explosive slugs. Both guns have rifling. MG’s are multi-role, meaning you can find the same weapons carried and fired by infantrymen, or mounted on various land vehicles. Auto cannons 20 to 40mm bores are basically anti-material weapons, mainly againts aircraft. They’re mounted either on planes for air to air combat or on ships or land vehicles as anti-aircraft weapons.

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