# Some shitty mod closed my thread without as much as an explanation.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941 "2007-11-01T23:21:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/21 "2007-11-01T23:57:50Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
For someone who is constantly bringing up Spike Lee movies, have you ever watched it?

In the movie, the words “jungle fever” are used to _derisively_ describe people who date outside their race and to castigate them. You do know that the use of a term in art, e.g., the name of a movie, (a) in this case, denotes this derision, and (b) does not, as SkipMagic mentioned, give you, or me, license to use it in general conversation.

But you knew this already.  
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Oh, come on - EVERYONE uses the term ironically because the movie put it into the public consciousness. I’ve seen people on this board use “yellow fever,” a derivative of “jungle fever,” to describe their taste for asians. SERIOUSLY.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/22 "2007-11-01T23:58:04Z")

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I was hoping for a thread like this to come along- thanks **VCO3** , my man! 😉

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/23 "2007-11-02T00:00:04Z")

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> [@VC03](#):
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> Watching that thread locked and dropping down the page is like watching a bag of kittens tied with rocks and thrown into the Hudson River.

Um, yeah. I think you may be taking your posting activities a little bit too seriously.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/24 "2007-11-02T00:02:32Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
…because I have several multi-page OP’s in Cafe Society and IMHO **each**! In praise of strong black women!  
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Oh, why don’t you stop dancing about and use the “N-word” already? At least that way there will be no confusion that you ARE a racist troll, and your inevitable banning will come that much sooner (and, might I add, will be that much sweeter.)

C’mon, **VC03** , the clock is ticking so you might as well post as many hate-filled, spiteful, vitrolic statements as you can before your time expires.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/25 "2007-11-02T00:04:10Z")

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And **VCO3** , seriously, even I can tell the previous thread and a few others of yours can maybe be viewed as crossing the line a bit to those in charge. So as someone who thinks you add flavor to the board, do reel it in a bit it- it wouldn’t be the same without you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/26 "2007-11-02T00:04:14Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Oh, come on - EVERYONE uses the term ironically because the movie put it into the public consciousness. I’ve seen people on this board use “yellow fever,” a derivative of “jungle fever,” to describe their taste for asians. SERIOUSLY.  
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Seriously? Where?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/27 "2007-11-02T00:07:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
And **VCO3** , seriously, even I can tell the previous thread and a few others of yours can maybe be viewed as crossing the line a bit to those in charge. So as someone who thinks you add flavor to the board, do reel it in a bit it- it wouldn’t be the same without you. 🙂  
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I think he adds flavor to the board too; I will usually at least open (and read) most of his threads.

But I recognize a baiting schtick when I see one.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/28 "2007-11-02T00:07:41Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Oh, come on - EVERYONE uses the term ironically because the movie put it into the public consciousness. I’ve seen people on this board use “yellow fever,” a derivative of “jungle fever,” to describe their taste for asians. SERIOUSLY.  
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I don’t use the term, ever. Do you know why? It’s because it’s racist.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/29 "2007-11-02T00:09:32Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
I think he adds flavor to board too; I will usually at least open (and read) most of his threads.

But I recognize a baiting schtick when I see one.  
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Actually the idea of a white guy being hot for black girls, yet not caring much for black guys, is an interesting phenomenon- I know a guy like **VCO3** in this regard.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/30 "2007-11-02T00:09:43Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
I just can’t even comprehend statements like this; if I happen to be fascinated with race, how does that make me any different than Quadop talking about LOTR, EvilCaptor working bondage into every thread, or Nava talking about freaking Spain, or Indiegrrl mentioning that she’s a stripper, that one chick talking about her prison warden husband in EVERY post, etc. etc. etc.? Being interested in a subject is not trolling. End this witch hunt!  
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Well, **Qagdop** doesn’t insert comments about how D&D is worthless because it’s all copied from LoTR, **EvilCaptor** doesn’t start threads telling people other kinds of sex and/or movies are worthless, **Nava** works her Spain references into her comments rather well (IMHO) and **Indiegrrl** … well, I don’t know that much about her (outside of her “Ask the Stripper” thread)

They don’t throw out transparent comments that attempt to be “edgy” and come out rather flat.

In other words: if you’re really interested in “race”, you should document yourself and stop starting trite threads that are not really enlightening.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/31 "2007-11-02T00:10:29Z")

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And before any of you start junior modding me about using the term, take a look at these threads.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=429266&highlight=jungle+fever](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=429266&highlight=jungle+fever)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=402454&page=3&pp=50&highlight=jungle+fever](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=402454&page=3&pp=50&highlight=jungle+fever)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=383418&highlight=jungle+fever](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=383418&highlight=jungle+fever)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299717&highlight=jungle+fever](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299717&highlight=jungle+fever)

> [@BytopianDream](#):
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> Also, you know of any hot sisters down in the Atlanta area that might give a poor white man a chance to get his jungle fever on?

> [@pravnik](#):
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> I’m white, but I went to an HBU for grad school. Apparently, the funniest thing on the planet is watching me attempt to do the Electric Cha-Cha. It serves as a strong innoculation against “Jungle Fever.”

> [@PanamaJack](#):
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> Anyone else wondering if Steve Martin might have really had ‘jungle fever’?

There are **pages and pages** of threads with people using the term.  
This is a goddamned witch hunt.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/32 "2007-11-02T00:10:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
Actually the idea of a white guy being hot for black girls, yet not caring much for black guys, is an interesting phenomenon- I know a guy like **VCO3** in this regard.  
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Oh, no, not one of those “My best friend is a . . .” posts.

:mad:

😉

And he’s only hot for them if they’re not “damaged goods.”

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/33 "2007-11-02T00:11:19Z")

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Am I the only one who can’t read these threads because they keep thinking “jungle fever, doodly doo, doodly doo” and continuously have to remind myself that that’s not how the song goes?

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/34 "2007-11-02T00:13:31Z")

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[QUOTE=DiggitCamara]  
Well, **Qagdop** doesn’t insert comments about how D&D is worthless because it’s all copied from LoTR, **EvilCaptor** doesn’t start threads telling people other kinds of sex and/or movies are worthless, **Nava** works her Spain references into her comments rather well (IMHO) and **Indiegrrl** … well, I don’t know that much about her (outside of her “Ask the Stripper” thread)

They don’t throw out transparent comments that attempt to be “edgy” and come out rather flat.

In other words: if you’re really interested in “race”, you should document yourself and stop starting trite threads that are not really enlightening.  
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Excuse me? I have _never_ said anything of the sort.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/35 "2007-11-02T00:14:22Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Seriously? Where?  
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I just ran a search and it only returns 250 posts, the first 25 of which are predominately about malaria. The only post I saw that actually used it in the context of fetishizing Asians that was also self-applied was a post by \*\*Autolycus \*\*back in June, when he said "_..I’m not sure if it’s the exoticism, or the often child-like look, or what, but Japanese cuteys really get my juices flowin’, if you get my drift. In juvenile vernacular, one would call it ‘yellow fever.’_ "

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/36 "2007-11-02T00:14:52Z")

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[QUOTE=GingerOfTheNorth]  
I don’t use the term, ever. Do you know why? It’s because it’s racist.  
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No, it isn’t. It’s kitschy and goofy, but it’s not racist! Look at the pages and pages of people using the term on this board alone, _including black posters_, and tell me it’s a racist or forbidden term akin to “that N word.”

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/37 "2007-11-02T00:16:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
Actually the idea of a white guy being hot for black girls, yet not caring much for black guys, is an interesting phenomenon- I know a guy like **VCO3** in this regard.  
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Well, if he was a one-trick-pony, I might even agree with you. But the thing is, he constantly spews out “provocative” threads (kids who order lobster should get AIDS, people having 500k in the bank yet considering oneself middle-class should be beheaded, etc. etc.).

He is either:

1. Extremely dumb and unable to see how his worldview clashes with most on this board
2. Trying to bait the people around here

I think number 2 applies. And it’s not even a well executed schtick.

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**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/38 "2007-11-02T00:16:55Z")

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The thing about it for me is this: **VC03** has made a large number of perfectly appropriate and interesting threads and posts on a wide variety of topics.

**VC03** , you absolutely should have known better than to think the locked thread was okay, dude. And since this is apparently just the latest in a pattern of behavior… Look, even if you think people are being unreasonable, if they don’t want you doing something while you hang out with them, and you still want to hang out with them, then have the courtesy to **cut it out**.

I really don’t want to see you have a meltdown and get kicked. If you don’t understand why people don’t like your comments about black people, or if you just get a kick pushing people’s buttons with it, just stop. Please.

It’s like with **Der Trihs** , he’s a cool guy, read his Cafe Society posts, or pretty much anything he says outside of Great Debates and/or the BBQ Pit, and you’ll see what I mean. But I’ve learned not to even bother with him when it comes to religion or politics, because he’s a hard-line extremist. But at least he seems to know where to draw the line and not get into trouble.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/39 "2007-11-02T00:17:03Z")

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I disagree. As do many others.

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-shitty-mod-closed-my-thread-without-as-much-as-an-explanation/424941/40 "2007-11-02T00:19:30Z")

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Oh, come on. Seriously. You really can’t see giant rocks on that train’s tracks?

Let’s see.

- Genetic bouillabaisse. You make it sound like purebread or, at best, mildly mulatto is good, but anything more is a mutt.

- Jungle fever. I can’t can’t say any more than has already been said and it’s obvious this one just doesn’t sink in.

- The entire last sentence. That one speaks volumes for itself.

You know, if you’d left out those three points your OP might have even been worthy of discussion. But you didn’t, and I can only think of two reasons why: A) There’s some kind of supermassive singularity that blocks your view of how offensive, arrogant, and contrary your posts come across as, and also seems to suck all attempts at pointing these things out into eternal oblivion, or B) You’re a troll. I honestly can’t decide which.

I challenge you to start a post that follows the following format:

1. Is at least marginally interesting and substantive enough to generate a few responses,
2. Contains no offensive references to race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, political affiliation, nationality, or any other specific segment of the human race,
3. Doesn’t make any uncalled-for jabs at the media, politics, or specific segments of society whom you feel may be responsible for any perceived oversight your post may contain,
4. Doesn’t take a contrarian point of view that makes your post look like you’re spoiling for another fight.

I’m willing to bet you can’t.

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