# Some Statistics on Crime **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 15, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536 "2004-03-15T23:47:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/21 "2004-03-16T05:22:36Z")
Oh dear, who left the backdoor open? there´s all kind of vermin coming in lately. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/22 "2004-03-16T05:23:43Z")
Hey **Salvador** , got a quick one for you: What is the difference, to you, between someone who kipes a dollar from a store and someone who steals millions of dollars from his company? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/23 "2004-03-16T05:34:40Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > Hey **Salvador** , got a quick one for you: > > What is the difference, to you, between someone who kipes a dollar from a store and someone who steals millions of dollars from his company? _Springs hand up and jumps in his seat_ Me!, me! The white guy that stole the millions was smarter!! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/24 "2004-03-16T05:41:57Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Oh dear, who left the backdoor open? there´s all kind of vermin coming in lately. Someone by the name of **BrainGlutton** over in GD. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/25 "2004-03-16T05:43:11Z")
> [@Anonymous Coward](#): > > Besides being ignorant, he’s also a plaguarist. All of his post is a simple cut’n’paste from another self-acclaimed pro-white website. Easily googled for anyone that cares. That just might be the nail in the coffin. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/26 "2004-03-16T06:11:17Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > That just might be the nail in the coffin. This thread alone probably is. See the locked Pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/27 "2004-03-16T06:18:08Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > See the locked Pit thread. Already did, thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/28 "2004-03-16T10:58:41Z")
**FenrisSF** , don’t give me that “sacrificed” nonsense. Having seen my best friend get beat up for “being different” and gotten beat up far too often myself for “being different” and defending her, I’d prefer not to be sacrificed on your altar of conformity. For the record, that best friend of mine was about as white as you can get, as am I, as are the kids who were beating us up. I was in far more danger in school in my small town than I am in my mixed-race neighborhood, or even a nearby mostly black neighborhood. The only one of the three someone pulled a knife on me was that small town. CJ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/29 "2004-03-16T12:31:16Z")
I assume that there has just been an oversight that interfered with getting this pile of sludge moved into the **Pit** or closed, but while it is here and open: > [@](#): > > To the person who says the stats are not controlled for socio-economic status: that is a great dodge – really masterful. Blacks always fall to the bottom in socio-economic status. So you have a lovely rhetorical crutch that you can’t lose. Black people need only clap their hands – 200 years ago, today, or 200 years in the future – and your device will chirp “Socio-economic status!” To hell with the victims, right? An actual study of history will demonstrate the several errors in your position. Years ago, blacks did _not_ make up the majority of prison populations. That was during the period when blacks were not the majority population of older cities. (_Socio_-economic conditions note more than simple poverty.) So the claim that blacks have always been poor and that _therefore_ they have always made up the greatest number of criminals falls on its face with the reality that they have not alwqys provided the largest percentage of the prison population, despite their poverty. There is also the fact to consider (in light of the OP) that well over half the current population in prisons are not there for actual offenses against persons, but for violations of draconian drug laws–laws that are enforced more frequently and more harshly among the urban black populations than among white suburban (or either white or black rural) populations. Now, it is possible to demonstrate (using valid statistics rather than the sludge from the OP) that among various age/sex/socio-economic populations, currently a young black man has the highest risk of turning to a life of robbery or other personally aggressive crime. However, it has not been demonstrated to me that his risk is higher than that of an urban Irish kid of the 1880s or an urban Italian kid of the 1920s. We are attempting to fight ignorance and it is taking longer. . . . ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536/30 "2004-03-16T15:27:22Z")
MPSIMS it surely isn’t. A debate? Obviously not: unless one was dropped repeatedly as a child, it’s not too hard to see the bias behind the OP and its statistics. There’s already an active Pit thread. So, I’ll just close this piece of shite whilst we discuss the posting privileges of such wondeful newbies as **Salvador** and **FenrisSF**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-statistics-on-crime/234536.md?page=1)