# Some Thoughts On Dove Hunting From a Vehicle **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2001, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492 "2001-09-24T14:47:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/21 "2001-09-25T00:48:53Z")
**WB** _needs_ his car for hunting. How else is he going to eradicate all the cougars, bears and [sharks](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=82807) after he’s done with the doves? Although I think it would be much harder to get the [mosquitos](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83579) from a moving vehicle. P.S., I wanna take the subject line of that last link and enshrine it in the SDMB Classic Hall of Screamingly Funny Thread Titles. ---
**Author:** ![atypicalcarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@atypicalcarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atypicalcarl)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/22 "2001-09-25T00:51:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xanakis \* > \*\*But why do it yourself? You can usually buy wild game in supermarkets. You don’t have to go and shoot it yourself. > \*\* Now that’s just lazy… ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/23 "2001-09-25T01:34:31Z")
Farm raised venison is about as flavorful as farm raised catfish. Not. What you buy is the supermarket isn’t wild game and a an animals diet effects the way it tastes. I don’t know about other places but to get a hunting license in Arkansas, where I susally hunt, I have to demonstrate that I know what I’m doing or that I’ll be with someone who is. The game wardens in the area I hunt in take a dim view of “taking pot shots”. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/24 "2001-09-25T01:48:11Z")
> [@](#): > > I know, those damned short sighted Oklahoma lawmakers. > > You buncha smart asses. > > It is illegal to hunt whale from a moving vehicle. I can’t imagine why they thought that law was necessary. When was the last time a whale found itself in the Cimarron River? Obviously those wily Greenpeace lobbyists have done gotten to the Oklahoma Lege. _Today…Oklahoma! Tomorrow…Norway and Japan!_ ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/25 "2001-09-25T02:07:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xanakis \* > \*\*I’m not a vegetarian. > > I understand the necessity of culling certain species and I appreciate that wild game is better than farm-raised.\*\* What supermarkets have wild game? Where do you live?! \*\* > [@](#): > > The animals I eat are properly raised and (mostly) killed quickly and painlessly.\*\* Um…then you’re talking “farm raised” not “wild”. Do you know what these words mean? \*\* > [@](#): > > If we’ve got every Joe with a gun out there taking pot-shots at animals there’s bound to be animals that get wounded or who die in pain. > \*\* Did you read anything I wrote? Or are you just calling out from under a bridge, trying to trap billy-goats? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/26 "2001-09-25T02:09:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*Did you read anything I wrote? Or are you just calling out from under a bridge, trying to trap billy-goats? > \*\* I apologize for the troll remark. It was out of line in this forum. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/27 "2001-09-25T02:25:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xanakis \* > \*\*I mean no offence by this question but why are so many Americans so obsessed with hunting animals? > > \*\* Out of curiousity, what precentage of Americans do you think actually hunt? Ruling out fishing, aproximately 2% of US citizens hunt ( according to US census data [http://fa.r9.fws.gov/surveys/surveys.html](http://fa.r9.fws.gov/surveys/surveys.html) ). That’s not many, is it? And those numbers include people who hunted once in that year, so the number who are “obsessed” is all the fewer for it. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/28 "2001-09-25T03:06:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > **Car-hunters are the lowest scum in the ecosystem. It’s illegal in Pa.** Exception: handicapped hunting permits. But even my grandfather hauls his butt out of the truck when the guys driving the field get close. I find it extremely ironic that a guy with the moniker ‘Wildest’ finds the outdoors too ‘wild’. The greatest appeal to true hunters is getting closer to nature, not hiding inside cos it’s too cold or hot or wet or dirty. Shame on you, Bill. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![A\_Friend\_of\_the\_Devil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@A\_Friend\_of\_the\_Devil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Friend_of_the_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/29 "2001-09-25T03:38:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xanakis \* > \*\*But why do it yourself? You can usually buy wild game in supermarkets. You don’t have to go and shoot it yourself. \*\* Why? The challenge, the chase, the necessity of appying all of my skills to successfully bag the quarry. You have fallen into the trap, my friend, that the game animal is hopelessly outclassed by the modern hunter. This is simply not the case. The animals - deer, bear, squirrels, rabbits, turkeys, and my own favorite, the grouse, have thousands of generations of adaptation to their environment. They are wary, and possess many natural abilities that serve them well in evading the hunter. Try it for yourself - take a good camera, go to the woods, and try to call in a turkey or get a shot of a grouse. > [@](#): > > \*\* > The animals I eat are properly raised and (mostly) killed quickly and painlessly.\*\* And so are the ones I harvest. No hunter worthy of the name takes pride in any unnecessary suffering. > [@](#): > > \*\* > If we’ve got every Joe with a gun out there taking pot-shots at animals there’s bound to be animals that get wounded or who die in pain.\*\* Please, this is an offensive generalization and stereotype. Are there animals who are only wounded? Of course. There are also ones who die naturally of disease, starve, or get killed by other predators. > [@](#): > > \*\* > I say: just leave them alone, they aren’t bothering you. \*\* In my state, the DNR is actively pursuing a reduction in the deer herd by hunters. The herd is estimated to be about 1.7 million animals, way too large for the carrying capacity of the land. Mild winters and an abundant food supply (fields of alfalfa and soybeans) are the main cause. There were over 40,000 car-deer collisions last year, with (IIRC) 5 fatalities (human). Hunting is a valid and effective game management tool. ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/30 "2001-09-25T07:11:01Z")
“I say: just leave them alone, they aren’t bothering you.” I beg to differ. They stand there with that come hither stare and you can almost hear them say, “Look at me, don’t I look tasty? How long has it been since you’ve had roasted venison or some good smoked deer jerky. I know you want it…” It bothers me that they are just a bunch of teases. For that, they must die so that they can be roasted, fried, smoked, and barbequed. BLAM!!! Feynn, proud member of P.E.T.A. (People Eating Tasty Animals) And Bill… Bill, Bill, Bill… Shooting from a vehicle is illegal because: 1. It’s dangerous. 2. It’s dangerous. 3. It’s dangerous. Can you say “Flying shell casings?” Can you say “Sparks can cause gasoline fumes to ignite?” Can you say “I might hit another vehicle?” What?? You can’t hear me? That wouldn’t be because you fired you gun off from inside the cab of your pickup was it? And you thought a Who concert was loud… ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/31 "2001-09-25T07:13:58Z")
One more thing in case anyone gets the wrong idea, just because something teases me does not mean that I will automatically kill it and eat it. I didn’t want Lola to read this and become afraid because she teases me all the time. I’d never kill her… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/32 "2001-09-25T14:20:06Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Tapswiller \* > Let me help you out, newbie to newbie. > Have you noticed that nobody else in this thread is taking **Wildest Bill** seriously? That’s because, to put it kindly,… > ::confidential whisper:: > **Wildest Bill** is a f_\*\*ing nutcase! > > Just thought you should know. \*\* Hey newbie, It’s funny you’re right I am crazy and since they took off my Hanibal mask I can bite now. Also newbie, you are not suppose to make personal attacks anywhere but the pit but since you’re newbie I guess you can claim what you are - ignorant. Just thought you should know. I do eat doves I shoot. I wrap bacon and a jalepenos around them then bbq them on the pit. I also don’t hunt out of vehicle if they are flying but when you haven’t seen a bird for a couple hours it gets kinda boring sitting there getting bit by mosquitoes. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/33 "2001-09-25T15:27:26Z")
Paraphrasing what **WB** just said “I don’t hunt game from moving vehicles unless, it’s…like really boring and there are mosquitos and stuff…” So…you _do_ (or did) hunt out of moving vehicles, then? Your last post certainly implies that you _have_… Wildest Bill: a “slob hunter”\*. Whaddasurpise.:rolleyes: Fenris \*The term is not an flame/insult any more than, say, “reckless driver” is. It’s a descriptive term that responsible hunters use to refer to “hunters” who engage in certain behaviors like: not asking for permission to hunt on other’s land, takeing shots that are too far away, shoot game out of moving vehicles, etc. See [here](http://www.msue.msu.edu/wildlife/mood/ethics.htm) for further info about the term and how responsible hunters behave. ---
**Author:** ![SteverinoAlaReno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@SteverinoAlaReno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteverinoAlaReno)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/34 "2001-09-25T15:43:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xanakis \* > \*\*But why do it yourself? You can usually buy wild game in supermarkets. You don’t have to go and shoot it yourself. > \*\* You can’t buy wild elk at the supermarket, or anywhere else in this country. It’s illegal to sell wild elk commercially. Any elk you might buy is ranch-raised, and usually raised in New Zealand. (I found this out when I had dinner at The Fort, a restaurant outside of Denver that specializes in elk.) I’ve never seen dove for sale at any supermarket. Why shouldn’t I do it myself? I can buy furniture at the store in nothing flat, but there is a sense of accomplishment from having constructed it myself. Same with hunting: I have provided for myself. If you don’t like hunting, that’s fine. We can agree to disagree on that. ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/35 "2001-09-25T15:50:02Z")
Hey Steven, I have ate at the Fort too. Did you tell the rattesnake it was good. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/36 "2001-09-25T15:50:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feynn \* > \*\* > > Can you say “Flying shell casings?” > > Can you say “Sparks can cause gasoline fumes to ignite?” > > Can you say “I might hit another vehicle?” > \*\* Can you say “someone who shoots from inside a vehicle will porobably have the weapon loaded when the vehicle’s moving?” My God, DON’T TRANSPORT A LOADED GUN IN A MOVING VEHICLE. Basic, basic, BASIC firearm safety rules and still people don’t seem to get it. I was at my father-in-law’s cottage this summer. He has a .22 he uses to shoot squirrels so they don’t wreck the cottage. I ask him “Where do you keep the gun?” He kept it leaning against the wall, on the porch, unattended. He goes over, picks it up, and just hands it to me. I just about barfed. Talk about a tragic firearms accident waiting to happen. So, Wildest Bill, I think we have dervied two basic answers to your question: 1. Allowing hunting from vehicles will cause a myriad of safety problems. 2. Allowing hunting from vehicles will encourage people to use vehicles in ways that are disruptive to wildlife and generally bad for other hunters. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/37 "2001-09-25T16:46:47Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Wildest Bill_ > It’s funny you’re right I am crazy and since they took off my Hanibal mask I can bite now. > > Also newbie, you are not suppose to make personal attacks anywhere but the pit but since you’re newbie I guess you can claim what you are - ignorant. > > Just thought you should know. You are pefectly correct, **Bill** , and I apologize for the inappropriate remark. That said, I want you to know that I meant it affectionately, and not as an attack. I realize that didn’t come across well. But I really do enjoy reading your threads and your posts. And if we ever met, I would buy you a beer, smile, and say, “Here’s to ya, ya crazy SOB!” ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492/38 "2001-09-25T21:55:55Z")
**WB** , Texas seems to have this to say about hunting from a motor vehicle: > [@](#): > > [§ 62.003. Hunting From Vehicles](http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pa/pa006200.html#pa002.62.003) > > ``` > (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b) of this section, **no person may hunt from** any type of aircraft or airborne device, **motor vehicle** , powerboat, or sailboat, or from any other floating device any wild bird or wild animal. > > (b) Animals and birds not classified as migratory may be hunted from a motor vehicle, powerboat, or sailboat, or from any other floating device within the boundaries of private property or upon private water by a person who is legally on the property or water for the purpose of hunting if no attempt is made to hunt any wild bird or wild animal on any part of the road system of this state. > > ``` Which Texas Parks and Wildlife [repeats](http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/hunt/regs/02_regs/means_and_methods.htm) > [@](#): > > Animals and game birds not classified as migratory may be hunted from a motor vehicle, powerboat, sailboat, or from any other floating device within the boundaries of private property or upon private water. Migratory game birds under certain circumstances may be hunted from a boat on public water. See the migratory game bird section for the exceptions. Still, it sounds like a hell of a way to kill mosquitos. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dove-hunting-from-a-vehicle/83492.md?page=1)