# Some very non-Pitting questions for Bricker

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 12, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375 "2014-08-12T16:19:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/21 "2014-08-12T18:08:31Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> “…in which the mass of mouth-breathing idiots compete for the privilege hurling the most vicious insults they can.”
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> Um, kinda looks like **you’re** starting it.

Does it? Who does that post attack, specifically?

I named no one.

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### Author: ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/22 "2014-08-12T18:13:10Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> You don’t spare one word for **RTFirefly** , whose stated purpose for this thread is belied by its existence as a Pit thread instead of a private message.
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> But you immediately attack me, which of course I predicted.

Sorry, my flawed morality made me do it.

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/23 "2014-08-12T18:14:11Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Sorry, my flawed morality made me do it.

I believe you.

Now go congratulate the folks who believe that exposing a child to organized religion is potentially far more dangerous than porn. Their morality is also top-notch.

Right?

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### Author: ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/24 "2014-08-12T18:17:56Z")

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I’m unaware of any porn zealots who have holed themselves up in an armed compound to avoid complying with the government.

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/25 "2014-08-12T18:18:26Z")

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For the record, if someone said that my morality would doom the country, there’s no way I’m going to send that person a PM. That’s like going to the door of someone who writes a letter to the editor instead of writing your own letter.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/26 "2014-08-12T18:19:14Z")

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Someone needs to get a room.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/27 "2014-08-12T18:20:01Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> (I know you regard the legal system as a mere annoyance and obstacle standing in the way of your visions of perfect society, but you can hardly help acknowledging that it exists).

Well, I didn’t think this needed to be in the Pit _qua_ Pit, but I guess it does. Because, boy howdy, that’s such a gratuitously wrong reading of everything I’ve been saying in threads with you, that it’s hard to regard it as anything less than bad faith.

Which makes your pre-emptive pity party even more amusing: trash someone else and whine that everybody’s picking on you.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> It’s not confusing at all. His hope is to incite another in the regular series of pile-on Bricker pittings, in which the mass of mouth-breathing idiots compete for the privilege hurling the most vicious insults they can.
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> That’s his “morality.” And he’s shocked, shocked to hear that his morality isn’t automatically acceptable as a standard for resolving disputes.

Yeah, that’s a good way to show that you’re not the jerk, it’s all those other people who are being jerks.

Anyhow, I want to make a basic point about the law, since you claim that I regard it as a mere annoyance and obstacle:

I _respect_ the law, but I don’t believe it’s always _right_.

Not only am I not alone in this attitude, but our government, along with every other democracy, is structured around that very attitude.

That’s why we have _legislatures_ that are empowered to _change the laws_, and do so on a more or less continuous basis. If the law was always _right_, then it would never be _wrong_, and only in need of being changed to apply to things like the emergence of new technology.

Sorry to get all Civics 101 here, but it seemed to be called for. Saying “I think law X is wrong,” as I’ve been known to, shouldn’t get anyone’s panties in a wad.

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### Author: ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/28 "2014-08-12T18:21:12Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> I consider your repeated posts in this thread an attempt to stroke off Bricker, which is pretty lame. You should probably stop doing that.

I see no reason to accept your personal fantasy as my own. I will, however, give your request to stop doing “that” all of the consideration that it deserves.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/29 "2014-08-12T18:22:42Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> His hope is to incite another in the regular series of pile-on Bricker pittings, in which the mass of mouth-breathing idiots compete for the privilege hurling the most vicious insults they can.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> Does it? Who does that post attack, specifically?
> 
> I named no one.

Objection your honor. If it please the court…

Defendant has pre-emptively painted any respondent that objects to his morality as “mouth breathing idiots” while in the next breath attempting to deny doing so based on a disingenuous pretense of not having named anyone specifically.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/30 "2014-08-12T18:24:43Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> (post shortened)
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> It’s rather confusing that you chose to publically post your inquiry and not expect/want other members to reply. Wouldn’t a Private Message have better suited your expressed purpose?

Because I was expecting the answer to question 1 to be ‘yes,’ as it in fact was, which meant that it wasn’t as much about me as about liberalism in general. Why Bricker believes that liberalism will destroy this country in due course seemed like a matter for open debate.

Besides, he made his statement about the destructive power of my beliefs publicly; it seemed fair to ask for an explanation publicly.

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/31 "2014-08-12T18:25:19Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Objection your honor. If it please the court…
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> Defendant has pre-emptively painted any respondent that objects to his morality as “mouth breathing idiots” while in the next breath attempting to deny doing so based on a disingenuous pretense of not having named anyone specifically.

No. Learn to read, come back, and try again:

The only ones preemptively called mouth-breathing idiots are the ones who participate in a pile-on of me, hurling the most vile insults they can.

Isn’t that what it says?

Why did you misrepresent it?

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### Author: ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/32 "2014-08-12T18:25:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The police called. Your Freshman Composition 101 teacher is on a ledge, threatening to jump…

So the test was positive huh?

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### Author: ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/33 "2014-08-12T18:29:51Z")

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I think that both the left and right could, in their own way, ruin America if they were given absolute, unrestricted, unchecked power.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/34 "2014-08-12T18:31:26Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> It’s not confusing at all. His hope is to incite another in the regular series of pile-on Bricker pittings, in which the mass of mouth-breathing idiots compete for the privilege hurling the most vicious insults they can.

Oh yeah: in the original thread, I asked you to \*read \*my OP in this thread. And in this OP, I gave you plenty of room to choose not to respond, and if you decided not to, I was going to have the mods close this thread just to keep it from being a pile-on. (ETA: And I did my damnedest to couch my OP in the most non-inflammatory language possible. Wasted effort, apparently. Such is life.)

Look, I can’t stop you from being you. And in this thread, you’ve shown your true colors in spades. You’ve got no one but yourself to blame for who you are and how you act.

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/35 "2014-08-12T18:42:17Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Oh yeah: in the original thread, I asked you to \*read \*my OP in this thread. And in this OP, I gave you plenty of room to choose not to respond, and if you decided not to, I was going to have the mods close this thread just to keep it from being a pile-on. (ETA: And I did my damnedest to couch my OP in the most non-inflammatory language possible. Wasted effort, apparently. Such is life.)

I like to figure odds.

And I figure, generously, that there’s maybe a 10% chance you believe that.

So speaking to that 10% probable version of yourself: really? If you truly simply sought information from me, then a PM serves that need. Why did you roll the dice on how long it would take the mods to respond, whether or not they’d accede to your request to close it, and set up a series of raw-meat treats for the vultures to start feasting upon?

And speaking now to the 90% probable version of yourself: it’s not credible to me to think you believed that your OP was not inflammatory and you didn’t know the flame bair you were posting. Indeed, despite your demurs, you posted in the Pit.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/36 "2014-08-12T18:43:05Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No. Learn to read, come back, and try again:
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> The only ones preemptively called mouth-breathing idiots are the ones who participate in a pile-on of me, hurling the most vile insults they can.
> 
> Isn’t that what it says?
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> Why did you misrepresent it?

You really are a humorless pedant of questionable paternal heritage. :rolleyes:

At least you’ve already established what that makes me. 😉

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/37 "2014-08-12T18:43:17Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I think that both the left and right could, in their own way, ruin America if they were given absolute, unrestricted, unchecked power.

Yes, that’s accurate.

Which makes my statement about RTF more a truism than a truth.

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### Author: ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/38 "2014-08-12T18:43:31Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> For the record, if someone said that my morality would doom the country, there’s no way I’m going to send that person a PM. That’s like going to the door of someone who writes a letter to the editor instead of writing your own letter.

That seems fair to me. If an accusation is made publicly, it’s surely reasonable to ask for clarification/explanation just as publicly.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/39 "2014-08-12T18:57:21Z")

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C’mon folks, almost forty posts and where are the vile insults? I want to see some vile insults, dammit.

So far, **Bricker** has actually come closest, but “you’re a mouth-breathing idiot if you end up hurling what I deem to be a vile insult, although no one one has actually done that yet”, is pretty weak tea, IMO.

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### Author: ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/40 "2014-08-12T19:04:41Z")

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It’s a good thing that no liberals on this board ever say bad things about Conservatives and the results of their concepts of morality.

:rolleyes:

Of course an ultra-liberal government run according to the uber-leftists that post here would result in ruin. Is that even remotely debatable?

For the record, I wouldn’t want to live in a one party state of either party. But just look at California if you want to see the result of Democrat only rule.

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