# Some very non-Pitting questions for Bricker

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 12, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375 "2014-08-12T16:19:53Z")
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### Author: ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/81 "2014-08-13T01:09:06Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> As an anal gangbang of **Bricker** , this thread is made of fail. My anarcho-nihilist politics are in opposition to his, but I can’t side with his opponents in thisthread for they all seem to have a shared desire to lace up their cleats and tap danceall over their pee-pee’s.

Wow. You’re edgy.

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### Author: ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/82 "2014-08-13T01:11:32Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Wow. You’re edgy.

Wow. You’re original.

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/83 "2014-08-13T01:18:20Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> they all seem to have a shared desire to lace up their cleats and tap danceall over their pee-pee’s.

😕 Do they have giant schlongs, or doublejointed knees?

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/84 "2014-08-13T01:20:43Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> As an anal gangbang of **Bricker** , this thread is made of fail. My anarcho-nihilist politics are in opposition to his, but I can’t side with his opponents in thisthread for they all seem to have a shared desire to lace up their cleats and tap danceall over their pee-pee’s.

"Twas destined to become a joke thread.

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### Author: ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/85 "2014-08-13T01:28:25Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> C’mon folks, almost forty posts and where are the vile insults? I want to see some vile insults, dammit.
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> So far, **Bricker** has actually come closest, but “you’re a mouth-breathing idiot if you end up hurling what I deem to be a vile insult, although no one one has actually done that yet”, is pretty weak tea, IMO.

**Bricker** is a _lawyer_!

How’s that?

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/86 "2014-08-13T01:50:00Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> You were shocked, shocked that I imputed to you the position of unrestricted immigration.
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> That’s not your position, you say.
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> But that’s bullshit, because the mix of your whacky system of what you think of as morals leads to no other conclusion.
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> “I’m not in favor of unrestricted immigration, and you can’t prove that I am, because I refuse to tell you my position.”

You realize, of course, that that makes no sense.

And if you want to find out what my entire position is on immigration, rather than just pieces, you’re welcome to start a thread on that. You can even Pit me for not having an actual position on immigration.

Maybe I have no complete, fully-thought-out position on immigration, and if I don’t, so what? The two pieces you have are not in contradiction: an awareness that we as a nation can’t just _open our borders_ to tens of _millions_ of _immigrants_ _of all ages and circumstances_, and a belief that it’s wrong for Christians to oppose _showing hospitality_ to tens of _thousands_ of _unaccompanied children_ that have endured a long and dangerous trek here.

Feel free to demonstrate how these two positions, combined with my “whacky system of what \* think of as morals leads to no other conclusion” than support of unrestricted immigration. Actual quotes, with links, substantiating the “whacky system” are required, however. Your recollections of what I may or may not have said in some ancient thread don’t qualify. (You’ve tried that gambit before.) Nor do bullshit assertions.

Speaking of your usual bullshit assertions, in the original thread, you rather went on about my making moral decrees and the like. The statements you claimed were my moral assertions and decrees were [(a)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17631381&postcount=179) my pointing out that what the law says and what is moral don’t always coincide, and [(b)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17631351&postcount=177) my pointing out that there can be more ways a punishment can fail than being too harsh or too lenient.

But if you want to come up with more examples of my trying to win arguments by asserting the truth of my moral beliefs, be my guest. Third time’s the charm, right?

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/87 "2014-08-13T02:39:29Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Now, to substance:I’m not in favor of unchecked immigration. How about anyone else here? Or is this a strawman? Again, an extremely inaccurate description of my position. Anyone else here “unwilling to use military force, or to use such force only when civilian casualties and American military deaths are near zero” or is this another strawman?

It’s strawmen all the way down, the same way liberals are intrinsically immoral and will fiddle as the US of A burns. “I’m convinced that applying your concept of morality to our country would destroy us in a couple of generations,” indeed! That is bizarre hyperbole, with utterly no basis in fact, and an insult to millions of Americans.

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### Author: ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/88 "2014-08-13T03:02:46Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> It’s strawmen all the way down, the same way liberals are intrinsically immoral and will fiddle as the US of A burns.

The liberals did take away your matches, and your lighter fluid. There is nothing left in the fire extinguishers, because you foamed up the parking lots to play your drifting games. And you have linked arms and leveled your guns to keep the liberals away from the blaze. What more do you want?

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### Author: ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/89 "2014-08-13T08:48:08Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> **Bricker** is a _lawyer_!
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> How’s that?

Bricker is a non-practicing lawyer. That is kinda like what conservative Christians expect gay and unmarried people to be with respect to sex.  
A genie in a bottle Obama opens says she will grant the Prez three wishes, provided that you must choose one of Bricker, Michelle Bachman or Ted Cruz to be the next Supreme Court Justice. Whom do you choose? Answer: Obama doesn’t believe in genies or Republican promises (any more), he chooses Lucy Koh.

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/90 "2014-08-13T11:43:11Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> First hornet’s free, I understand.

Told you it was a gateway bug.

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### Author: ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/91 "2014-08-13T13:13:00Z")

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We were all expecting a knockdown drag-out between \*\*RTFirefly \*\*and **bricker** , and armchair QBs are keeping this thread alive with bug puns. At least one of the duellists has a bug for a name, so points for continuity, but this pitting is still not up to preliminary level yet.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/92 "2014-08-13T13:21:12Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> **Bricker** is a _lawyer_!
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> How’s that?

Whoa, dude. That’s just beyond the pale.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/93 "2014-08-13T13:48:18Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> A genie in a bottle Obama opens says she will grant the Prez three wishes, provided that you must choose one of Bricker, Michelle Bachman or Ted Cruz to be the next Supreme Court Justice. Whom do you choose? Answer: Obama doesn’t believe in genies or Republican promises (any more), he chooses Lucy Koh.

Since when is **Bricker** not practicing? And qualifications aside (though Bachmann’s background in litigation is not particularly impressive) that’s not a close question. **Bricker** is pro-gay marriage and pretty moderate overall. In fact, he favors many of the same things you do; he just doesn’t favor the same means of achieving them.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/94 "2014-08-13T13:48:21Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> We were all expecting a knockdown drag-out between \*\*RTFirefly \*\*and **bricker** , and armchair QBs are keeping this thread alive with bug puns. At least one of the duellists has a bug for a name, so points for continuity, but this pitting is still not up to preliminary level yet.

Guess you’d like to be a fly on the wall for that fight, wouldn’t you?

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### Author: ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/95 "2014-08-13T14:32:47Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> The worship of Moloch – where children are sacrificed in fire – is one possible form of exposure to organized religion, and it is certainly more harmful to a kid than reading Oglaf.

Which, by the way, ohmygod thank you! Just cranked through the archives. How have I missed this?

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### Author: ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/96 "2014-08-13T14:53:25Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The liberals did take away your matches, and your lighter fluid. There is nothing left in the fire extinguishers, because you foamed up the parking lots to play your drifting games. And you have linked arms and leveled your guns to keep the liberals away from the blaze. What more do you want?

I still have matches. I still have lighter fluid. And the fire extinguishers are full. I guess your liberals failed but have somehow managed to convince you that their failures are actually a success?

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### Author: ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/97 "2014-08-13T15:03:17Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> …A genie in a bottle Obama opens **says** she will grant the Prez three wishes, provided that you must choose one of Bricker, Michelle Bachman or Ted Cruz to be the next Supreme Court Justice. Whom do you choose? Answer: Obama doesn’t believe in genies or Republican promises (any more), he chooses Lucy Koh.

(post shortened, bold and underline added)

Are you saying that the genie lied to you?

Lucy Koh has a fine liberal reputation.

> **[Home - LawlessAmerica.com](https://lawlessamerica.com/?option=com_content&view=article&id=534%3Aimpeach-federal-judge-lucy-h-koh&Itemid=90)**
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> Lawless America My name is William Michael Windsor.  Most people know me as Bill Windsor.  In 2005, I felt all judges were honest and that court was where you went for justice.  In 2008, I began to discover how naive I was. For the...

I believe Obama would chose Susan Rice.

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### Author: ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/98 "2014-08-13T19:03:29Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> 😕 Do they have giant schlongs, or doublejointed knees?

Neither. Just a confused metaphor on my part. All these “let’s get Bricker!” threads work the same way. His opponents come charging in, all het up on their righteous anger, sure that THIS time they are going to give him what he deserves. Then he lawyers and parses them right the fuck to death without them doing much but impotently calling him a great big poopy-head. I, personally, am Bricker-neutral. I agree with him on a couple things and disagree with him on others. As a somewhat sadistic observer of the human situation, though, I do enjoy watching him reduce his opponents to rage-quitting jelly.

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/99 "2014-08-13T19:07:54Z")

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Why is it that when people post as “neutral” they often come off as stupider than either side?

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### Author: ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-very-non-pitting-questions-for-bricker/695375/100 "2014-08-13T19:09:08Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Why is it that when people post as “neutral” they often come off as stupider than either side?

Who are you, again?

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